Wilder vs Ortiz : Meaningless Post Fight Thoughts

Andy Ruiz is supposed to fight Ortiz next if Ortiz can pass tests for blood pressure, heart, etc.

I am more convinced than ever that Joshua will knock Wilder out and that Fury will toy with Wilder.................Ortiz's problem was that his health could not allow him to continue to do what he used to do when he had his health and was young. Will be 39, but those who know him claim he is closer to 50...............a young Ortiz would have knocked Wilder and even this version of an old Ortiz came very close............

 

To be fair, a lot of those "ordinarily good posters" showed up after the Ortiz fight to give Wilder due credit. There'll always be haters, of course.

I've said this before, but Wilder himself has wanted to fight good opponents for a while now.

However his management had little confidence in him and kept him away from legit threats for a long time. Only in the last year or two have they developed some confidence in their man; e.g. just over a year ago Wilder's manager said that Gerold Washington was a much riskier fight than what he would've preferred.

 

I'm not the biggest fan of Wilder but I believe he beats AJ, Fury/Wilder is hard to call, if Wilder catches Fury he wins since Fury was put on his backside by a cruiserweight

 

Great post, I think I agree with every single point.

In regards to the hate part, people like to focus on your flaws and not on your strengths when they hate you. The problem with that kind of thinking is it causes you to be wrong a lot.

Great fight, Ortiz is everything I thought he was I never listened to these guys who said he was old coz he struggled to put away a sprinter in Malik Scott and a human punching bag in Allen. I knew if you come forward Ortiz is a very dangerous man.

I was kind of disappointed in Wilder as I thought he relied on his right hand abit too much, I wanted him to pump that piston like jab and use his feet rather than what he did of staying on the outside but being low volume. Nevertheless he showed he’s right hand isn’t just for Koing B and C level guys, even the A level guys will feel the effects.

In regards to AJ vs Wilder, that fight should happen end of the year if Hearn doesn’t chicken out. AJ has more routes to victory but Wilder has one, and a man with only one route which is to stop him when AJ gasses. So right now I think Wilder might be able to pull it off but it really is a 50/50 for me on paper.

 

He does receive alot of hate yes, from me its more ridicule as its just too easy and I do actually find it funny.

He showed grit and heart vs Ortiz which I didn't think he had. I gave him his due props after the fight.

AJ still obliterates him IMO though and I do look forward to it, as of right now AJ is my fav fighter. I have no problem with Wilder (apart from when he goes on his social media rants), just his hardcore fans (mainly on youtube) are delusional - like, truly are delusional.

As time has passed I have always said that the way to beat AJ is to have a good engine and genuine KO power. Wilder has both, which makes the potential match up interesting.

 

Where is the official info about Ortiz vs Ruiz ? I saw it on the forum , but no one posted a source.

 

There's no official info or even unofficial speculation from reliable sources, the thread was just a poll disguised as news.

 

Agree with all the thoughts to a t, maybe less so about his spot historically as a sub 215 HW or whatever. And I do dislike him but spent the last couple years being accused of being a defender of him or something. He still has plenty of reason that folks aren't wild for hating him. But as long as they admit it and can hopefully not underrate him, that's fine.

Very good post, kirk.

 

Good post, good read, I enjoyed it.

I also would like to see AJ / Wilder but it seems like he's going to fight Povetkin, assuming Sasha gets past Price which he should. I'm pretty confident AJ will take care of Wilder with relative ease ... assuming he gets by Povetkin, which is not a given.

 

Wilder is p4p no 1 most hated boxer on this forum.

 

I was thinking the same , but everyone started to talk about it like it's a done deal

 

No he isn't, it's between Adonis Stevenson and Danny Garcia.

 

One good thing about Wilder is that despite all the skepticism about how far he can go in the sport ... at least it looks like it's all going to play out in the near future. It'll be good just to sit back and watch and see what happens.

Contrast this with the Haye sagas over the years ... with all the inactivity and fights that didn't eventuate.

Wilder is likely going to provide some good entertainment one way or another.

 

The hate is why I had to jump to Mendoza on my HW champs A-P thread. Fans seem to believe hate is something they control and use to influence the industry. No, not really, ya got it backward. Your hate has been under control for 230 years buds. It's a very basic reaction, of course the industry is prepared for it, of course you're doing nothing but increasing pocket sizes.

It's funny to me that an 18th century jew can manipulated bigots, and yes they if they weren't the system doesn't work, into making whatever race, nation, ethnicity, age, shape, culture, or any other form a bigot may discriminate against unfairly richer and more successful.

I mean, how damn dumb are you if you've had the wool pulled over your eyes from a fella 230 years back?

Next Wilder video someone will make fun of a word he mispronounces often. As if he can't just avoid words that make him sound southern and, or, uncuth. If "Athletic-cism" didn't make youse squeal like little girls in pigtails his ass wouldn't have said it as often as he did. He feeds you this tiny little nothing and youse take it from there and blow him up across the internet while patting your own ass because you speak dem anglish bedda as if he's a ****in' literary sport.

Most y'all mother ****ers can't read. Either lack the cognitive capacity or the attention span to read anything of worth, but it's a smart thing you're doing when you post **** like "yulaverse" is it? Bit of the pot callin' the kettle black except these pots never realize they are making that kettle gold everytime they scream black, black, it's black, he's black.