Wilder vs. the 80s

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the guard will deflect some of the power, that don't matter as they still fall flat on their back.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    When i say thru i mean without touching. Some deflected but some were clean.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    for me the 80's was a weak era, split titles & navigation by King for his champs. Holmes avoided the best & Tyson was a fresh breath of boxing air until Don King ruined it again.

    One thing about Tyson he fought the best (no Co Champs) he moppped up the 80's fighters Holmes & the people Holmes avoided but once the Cus & Rooney & co were pushed out of the way.....King used his talons to ruin things again....

    Wilder can punch & has heart but he hasnt fought anyone yet, still the 80's were the worst for me Fat, Lazy underacheivers & drug users & he could clean up.

    Holmes would be a test and may beat Wilder as would the ATG's but Larry could be hurt by Wilders right hand power. Still I think Wilder gets beat soon by either Joshua or Povetkin

    Lets face it Ortiz was his best opponent and he was an old 38-(39 this month) and not in good condition (Ortiz could lose 30-35 lbs)
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Other than Tyson from Spinks going back to his debut and pre-comeback Larry Holmes (until the last few fights of his first career), Wilder out-conditions the entire decade of heavyweights. And I’d rate his conditioning as being on par with prime Tyson and Holmes.

    Wilder’s dedication and lack of lapses in training would give him an edge in a lot of those fights.
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does make one chuckle when plenty on here claim Holmes was Tyson's best win, a man who had just lost his last two fights, was overweight and nearly 40. Just love the double standards.....
     
  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    :facepalm: Who on this board is going nuts for beating a 38 year old in a performance where he nearly got ktfo?
    Tell me, who beat the better man in the more dominant manner that night, Wilder vs. Ortiz or Tyson vs. Holmes? Talking about double standards.....
     
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  7. Wass1985

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    I'm saying you can't have it both ways, Ortiz is better at that age than Holmes anyway......
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Ortiz is good, thats true. Better than Holmes? The man fought until the age of 53! He did very well vs. a prime Holyfield and beat Mercer, too.
    Next thing is, you can win life and death narrowly by a hairbreadth, or you win by pure domination. We´ve had a thread here on BF24, if anyone else would KO4 Holmes. Most of the posters didn´t find any boxer repeating the Tyson performance, for me, including Wilder. Evaluating Tyson is not only who he beat, it is how he beat them.

    Saying that, didn´t Wilder impress even more by KO1 Stiverne?
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’m pretty sure 38 year old Ortiz and 38 year old Holmes would have a close fight. Ortiz has more power and Holmes was more comfortable in late rounds. Both technicians.