Wilder Vs The 90s

Any 90s version of Holyfield mercs Wilder, let's be honest. He only started seriously dropping off in the early 2000s and even then he was still dangerous.

Wilder would just have to do a Herculean level of ducking and dodging to avoid any legitimate challengers in the 90s. I'm not entirely sure it could be done. Even journeymen could take your head off on a good day.

 

First off....Wilder would never fight someone with nandrolone levels as high as Evan Feilds'.

So yeah, I guess you could call it a duck since he won't even fight a guy who was taking heart medicine that made his blood vessels slightly harder.

 

Or vice versa.

I envision a hybrid of the Bennt fight and Wilders fight with Liakovich.

I guess whoever lands their money punch first.

So....Im leaning towards a heavy handed big man with a soft chin beats a heavy handed little man with a soft chin.

 

A heavy handed big man who drops his hands v.s a small guy with skills and power is a recipe for disaster. Factoring chins out of the question because both guys have the power to end the other with one punch... Wilder is definitely the more mechanically flawed of the two.

 

Yeah, but Wilder's more confident and has more one punch power.

Also, weve seen chinnier fighters than Wilder take Tommys shots.

I liked Morrison, but Wilder is underrated on this forum because of his ducks of Potvetkin, and weak resume b/c of that swerve.
If Wilder fought Potvetkin, it'd be a 50/50 fight.
Wilder, if he fought smart off the back foot could hurt Potvetkin who'd be walking into big shots.
POtvetkin, could also just as well get that L hook in and smash Wilders chin to bits.

That said....Potvetkin KOs Morrison 100/100 X.

 

Wilder would have a good punchers chance against the glass cannons of the era. Hide, Maskaev, Morrison etc. But I favor all of them against him when at their respective peaks. Wilder/Jefferson would have been a barn burner while it lasted and almost certainly would have culminated with a brutal FOTY contending KO regardless of which way it went.

But think for a second. How many of Wilders defenses would you favor to hang in the top 15-30 during the 90s much less contend? It's so hard to gauge the guy v.s that era because of how terrible his opposition has been. But on eye test alone he wouldn't be top 15 at any point of that period h2h.

 

Well Morrison could be upset by someone like Wilder or worse.. But it's such hard for me to see such a goofy and flawed guy beat a peak Morrison. Just for a little perspective. Imagine if it were Morrison landing that left hook on Wilder instead of Molina. Wilder's learning to use his size to his advantage, but he's still flawed enough to where a smaller guy like Morrison with a big punch and decent skills would be a nightmare for him. If you drop your hands constantly and have terrible balance and coordination problems like Wilder then chances are a left hook expert like Morrison is going to land eventually.

 

I'd expect Wilder to fight much more like he did v Stiverne than he did v Molina against someone like Morrison.

MOF.....if Trey somehow gets himself into a title fight v Wilder, I'd expect him to fight Trey as he did v BVern than he did v Molina.
And remember.....Molina had Arreola KTFO on his feet before Arreola caught him and stopped him. So it's not like Molina is a light puncher.

 

Stiverne is no Morrison dude... He's way too slow and fights too much off the backfoot. We're talking about the guy who was getting outboxed by a shot Austin, dropped and almost lost to Rossy, and stopped by journeyman King. Morrison is nothing like Stiverne, those closest to him as far as today's division is concerned is Povetkin. Wilder doesn't have the skills to keep Morrison at the end of his jab, and he certainly isn't going to avoid Morrisons power shots like he did Stiverne. Remember.. Mercer had to go through absolute hell before rallying and getting Morrison out of there. Another thing... We know Morrison can get get knocked down and get up against live opponents - but can Wilder? That's still an unknown. Wilder definitely has a chance here sure, anyone with a punch and decent skills does. But you've got to favor Morrison given what we've seen from the two.

 

TUAMAN WOULD **** HIM UP

 

No arguments bout that UTF.

Just sayin........Wilder fights differently depending on what he percieves as a threat.

Vs Stiverne, Wilder, like Fury v Wlad, showed he can fight a SMART fight.

Potvetkin is also a far more dangerous fighter. Stiverne a journeyman who hit the jackpot when Vitali was fighting for his country.
Wilder hit the jackpot when the WBC allowed him to fight Scott for the mandatory.

Sad days these, but it doesnt change the fact that Wilder can adapt depending on who's in front of him.

Vitali could literally come right out of a political forum, and spark Wilder in a handful of rds.
Morrison just doesnt, IMO, have the punch resistance to do it himself.

 

Grant? Maybe but probably not. Grant was pretty solid and actually had a far better resume than Wilder going into the Lewis fight. Definitely more skilled and athletic despite his punch resistance issues, but he showed heart in getting up and beating Golota. So the 90s unbeaten Grant would certainly be a favorite over Wilder. Tua? You've got to be kidding me man. He KILLS Wilder. There's no way that left hook wouldn't land eventually. An extremely mechanically flawed guy like Wilder with chin problems isn't beating a prime Tua, no way Jose. Schultz in his prime would be favored to pull off a workman type of UD off, wouldn't look impressive in doing it but I certainly favor him. He gave a prime Moorer and Foreman serious problems. Stylistically Wider has a better chance of beating him than Grant or Tua, but hard to favor him..

 

Tua has always had problems with bigger guys who can keep him out on the outside of their jabs, plus the power of Wilder I think would keep Tua from taking a lot of risks trying to get his shots of, because he'd be too worried about the incoming. I think he'd go into survival mode after around the 3rd 4th round when he starts having trouble getting to Wilder and starts realizing he's over committing on his shots it would be too risky for Tua.. I think Wilder would out work him to a decision.

 

Grant when matched size for size he buckled. Power4power I think Wilder has more devastating power than Grant, and I don't think Grant would take too many of those shots without touching the canvas. I pick Wilder by KO.

LIKE I touched with about Tua already, he's too inconsistent against bigger guys, with that type of size advantage. Look at how timid he was against Lewis, Wilder is a lot bigger with longer reach and more ferocious power behind his punch. Tua would have to risk a lot to get within punching range to land clean on Wilder, and once he starts feeling Wilder's shots hell start to go into survival mode. If Lewis, Ustinov, and Barrett are any indication of how'd he'd struggle with Big Wilder, I don't like his chances. Wilder by UD.

As far as Schultz goes, I Think IF HE TRIED To PRESSURE Wilder I think with his shaky defense will leave him open and he'd eventually get clipped with something big most likely get up and then get outboxed along the way to a UD. Just my opinion!!

 

Is Morrison any smaller than Wilder? He's shorter, but considerably stockier and packing a few pounds extra muscle. Basically very similar dimensions to Povetkin.

The fight will come down to stylistic factors, not physical. If Wilder can keep Tommy at the end of his jab he could knock him out. If Tommy finds he can close distance and get off his shorter crisper shots on the inside then Wilder's toast.

The fight would likely involve several knockdowns of both parties, or a quick brutal finish for one. I'm leaning towards Morrison but only because we haven't yet seen Wilder in with anyone of Morrison's calibre.