Wilder VS The Tuaman

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  1. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    It's possible if he got lazy up close but I think Joshua has enough upper body strength to nullify Tua up close, also he held his right up so wlad left hook mostly missed.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, for sure. Liakhovich was getting banged about by dudes like Helenius and hadn't won a big fight for something like six years. He was cannon fodder for ranked fighters. I'm not even sure he'd have beaten Lupus Stiverne tbh.
     
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  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    We are talking about prime fighters. Prime. Holding you right up against 41 year old Wlad isn't the same as a prime Tua.
     
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  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    If you add in Wlads reach it sure is peanut.
     
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  5. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua would find that chin eventually
     
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  6. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Wlad left hook is as fast as it is even at 41.
     
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  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Foh, and Tua is shorter than Wlad so the hook is coming from a different angle. Let us real boxing fans talk alt and just stfu, lmao.
     
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  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Hard to tell Wilders prime until he starts stepping up.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Fair enough. White Wolf lost a few more than I realized going into that Wilder fight. But Ruiz himself had a couple of losses in the 2+ years preceding the Tua bout. One of those was against Doc Nicholson, who was fairly highly regarded. But the guys Liakhovich lost to (and I admit, 4 losses in his last 6 does my argument no favors) - but the guys he lost to were all considered among the very best of the division. Not really so with the guys who beat Ruiz.

    And I think there is maybe a decent chance that that version of Liakhovich could have beaten that version of Ruiz, or at the very least, that Tua and Wilder could have each respectively done to Ruiz and Liakhovich what the other did.

    So maybe the White Wolf comparison is off. But my greater point stands, that Ruiz was nothing special when Tua beat him. And that version of Tua was hardly yet tested.
     
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  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ruiz is nothing special, no doubt. But neither is Wilder. Both are cheaters. Ruiz did his cheating mostly IN the ring, violating the rules against excessive holding with the impunity that his connections to Don King provided him.

    Wilder - or perhaps more specifically, his management - does his cheating outside the ring, when they sign up stiff after stiff, mediocrity after mediocrity, to pad this fraud's record, keep him conscious, and keep up the myth he's this mighty "KO artist!"

    Both of these clowns are/were conmen. And boxing fans are the ones who get taken to the cleaners with this crap. Tua would do a number on Wilder, just like he did Ruiz.
     
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  11. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    I have tried to shut it, but you keep responding to me, you big hands lmao.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...are we calling Wilder fast, though? I mean fast compared with Tua maybe, but fast enough that he's able to razzle-dazzle his way to a decision without any dramatic moments? I don't think Wilder's right hand can halt Tua in his tracks, given the big Kiwi's legendary whiskers. I also don't think Wilder can stand up to a single even remotely semi-flush left hook from Tuaman.
     
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  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    and Tua would almost certainly land it... If Molina could land his like this - Wilders defense still leaves a lot to be desired. Tua in his prime KO's Wilder 9/10 times.
     
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  14. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    Tua by life ending KO,
     
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  15. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd go for Tua because I've seen guys that don't have KO power like Tua (e.g. Molina) wobble Wilder with a left hook. Also Tua had a granite chin as in his prime, he was never dropped. Tua folded guys that were almost the same height as Wilder but with bigger legs but in saying that Wilders definitely a different kettle of fish. It'd be a good fight but I'd pick Tua to win by KO.
     
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