Wilder vs Tysons 80s title opponents

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    How does Deontay Wilder
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    do vs

    Berbick
    Smith
    Tucker
    Thomas
    Tubbs
    Holmes
    M. Spinks
    Bruno
    Williams
    Douglas

    And even though Ruddock wasn't an 80s opponent, Ill throw him in as an honorable mention.

    All as they were when Tyson fought them.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I think that Tillis, who isn't even on that list, gives him all he can handle.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    As Berbick fought Tyson coming out more aggressive than usual the bigger Wilder would KO him early. Smith hardly threw anything against Tyson but spoiled really well I think it would be the same as this fight except if Smith caught Wilder the way he caught Tyson at the end of their dull bout he would KO DW, I feel Smith could take Wilder`s best shots. Tucker would land more punches than Smith and Berbick he could also take Wilder`s best shots because he took Tyson`s with ease. Thomas jab would keep Wilder off for a while but his defense might let him down, DW could do with learning how to use the jab like Thomas though. Holmes would go the same as Thomas because he still had quite a jab and Wilder doesn`t seem to know how to nullify that tool. Tubbs would do way better than Thomas and Holmes, he still had quick hands and fought decent in the first round against Tyson before he decided to fight up close. Wilder`s reach would probably enable him to catch Tubbs sooner or later though. Spinks would have beaten Wilder, too crafty he didn`t do anything wrong against Tyson he just came up against a master class in destroying a cagey opponent. Bruno vs Wilder would be like Lewis-Bruno except it could end sooner because Lewis`s right hand wasn`t straight enough during this dreadful period in his career, I feel Washington would beat Bruno easily. Williams would get stopped quickly left his right hand low all the time and would get knocked out by hooks. Douglas would outbox DW unless he over extends with his jab too much the way he did vs Tyson when he was caught with the uppercut that caused the long count. All this in my very humble opinion, by the way they could all beat me and my arm chair, LOL!
     
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    If Bruno hits Wilder with the hook he caught Tyson with idk if Wilder stays upright
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Berbick would lose, too aggressive.
    Smith would do better, spoil all night and had the chin to take Wilder`s shots.
    Tucker would land a lot and had a great chin like Smith.
    Thomas would keep him of for a while with his better jab but his defense would let him down.
    Tubbs would have a decent first round like he did vs Tyson because of his fast hands but might start making mistakes and get blown away.
    Holmes would do the same as Thomas with his still decent jab and might last the distance, don`t think Wilder will land much.
    Wilder would find Spinks the hardest to hit and might drop a decision.
    Bruno would trouble Wilder the way he did with Lewis but this was before Lewis straightened out his right, I feel Bruno will gas after starting well and get blown away.
    Williams would be knocked out quickly.
    Ruddock would get KO`d like he did vs Lewis.
    So the 3 fighters who were most likely to beat DW were Spinks, Douglas (unless he over extends his jab too much) or Tucker, at least one of them 3 would probably beat Wilder.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tyson without Rooney rushed in with no defense apart from certain points when he came in low that`s why he got caught, dreadful! Wilder would stand at range because of his reach and in his fight here with Washington was very cautious, Bruno didn`t have the savvy to open a fighter up unless he was reckless.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

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    Wilder would have a tough time vs. all of them. I think Bonecrusher knocks him out.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wilder would do better against Smith than Bruno did he`s a better, quicker fighter!
     
  9. SluggerBrawler

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    Berbick - SD Berbick or late TKO Wilder. SD to Berbick because he wasn't the most skilled, but he would constantly punch and maul at Wilder. He could TKO Wilder but I don't see that happening. Wilder will swing and get a few good shots, but Berbick would absorb single shots with his iron chin. Wilder could catch him later on and TKO him.

    Smith - KO Smith. Smith will catch him sooner or later and Wilder's chin could not stand up to Smith's power. Smith's iron chin would soak up the one or two punches that Wilder could swing and catch him with.

    Tucker - UD Tucker or late TKO Tucker. Tucker was a great mover, with a good jab, formidable power and an iron chin. Wilder couldn't do anything to him.

    Thomas - UD Thomas or late TKO Wilder

    Tubbs - Early KO Wilder. Although Tubbs would embarrass Wilder for as long as he could last, countering him constantly and jabbing him. He would eventually get caught by a Wilder bomb and his chin wasn't the best.

    Holmes - SD Holmes. Tyson had elite level skills as well as his speed and power, not many others could KO even that Holmes and Wilder certainly isn't.

    M. Spinks - UD Spinks. Wilder wouldn't catch him clean, no way. Too cagey and he actually had a good chin despite the Tyson loss.

    Bruno - TKO Bruno. We all know Bruno had a powerful and accurate jab. He would land it at will and get Wilder out of there on cuts. I know that most people will think that Bruno will get TKO'd late, but Wilder wasn't of the same caliber as Witherspoon, Smith, Tyson and Lewis.

    Williams - KO Wilder. Wilder's power + Williams' leaky defence and poor chin = KO for Wilder. Easy fight for Wilder if he can get past the jab.

    Douglas - TKO Douglas. Douglas was a possessed man that night.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    I don't know that the current version of Wilder would be worse than a marginal underdog against any of them and there's a case for him being favored over all of them.

    Something to take into account is that Wilder is capable of posing too much and losing rounds against good boxers with jabs. If he fell into that habit and failed to get the fight changing punches in, someone like Spinks might take a decision win.

    That tendency coupled with his chin issues wouldn't see him making it through undefeated. I'll say he'd do better than .500
     
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  12. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I couldn't make Wilder a favorite over any of these men. He could get lucky and catch Tubbs, Williams, or Bruno, but, I doubt it. I think Tubbs would make him look silly. And, Bruno is much more likely to catch Wilder early than vice versa. Maybe Wilder could squeak past Berbick. Unless Wilder gets substantially better, he definitely loses to the rest of them.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Lewis wasn`t at his best the night he beat Bruno I think Wilder beats both of them that night, dreadful fight and nothing but a footnote in Lewis`s career.