Wilder vs Usyk

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  1. BCS8

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    Yes.

    Both Fury and Wilder had a chance to fight AJ if they really wanted to and they both bottled it. Joshua is a good boxer with huge power.

    Wilder is more explosive than AJ, granted, but he is levels below him as a boxer.

    Fury is a level above AJ as a boxer but his power can't compare.

    Usyk, barring some freak hit (and it might happen, Wilder has made a career out of it) should box Wilder's ears off and probably stops him late.
     
    BCS8, Oct 17, 2022
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  2. Veerbone

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    Usyk would wear Wilder out physically and pile up points to win late. Wilder might drop him if he hits a lucky shot, but make no mistake, for him to hit Usyk would require luck.
     
    Veerbone, Oct 17, 2022
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  3. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Member Full Member

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    So 12 rounds punch stats landed, Usyk: 170, Wilder: 0?
     
    PistonHondai, Oct 17, 2022
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  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually I think there is a greater chance Usky wins by KO. I doubt Wilder would land his punch flush on Usyk
     
    THE BLADE 2, Oct 17, 2022
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  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I concur
     
    THE BLADE 2, Oct 17, 2022
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  6. Put to the test

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    i wanna see this fight
     
    Put to the test, Oct 17, 2022
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  7. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is the opposite.
    it has already been confirmed that AJ turned down 50 million dollars to fight Wilder in America in 2018.
    it is clear AJ and Hearn sabotaged the chance to secure 40% of a Fury fight recently because they will never accept being B side & risking his career .
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Shelly Finkel, manager of Deontay Wilder, has responded to Eddie Hearn's claims that he ignored the offer of a fight against Anthony Joshua. Finkel admitted that he ignored Hearn's approach to organise a mouth-watering clash between Wilder and Joshua, instead choosing to focus on the American's upcoming fight with Finland's Robert Helenius.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/b...-set-Deontay-Wilder-Anthony-Joshua-clash.html

    Who knows, maybe we still see this. A much much better fight than Wilder / Helenius or Fury / Chisora.
     
    BCS8, Oct 17, 2022
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  9. Serge

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    The Dosser's fans are all over social media claiming he'll KO Usyk and hyping the crap out of The Dosser for knocking out Helenius like he's just beaten an ATG and not a near 39 y/o former sparring partner who was KO'd by former Dosser KO victims Duhaupas and Washington both of whom are garbage and always have been. These same cretins who hype up his woeful opposition like he's slaying ATGs and not bums and D levels and act like he isn't a can-crushing cherrypicking manufactured fraud are the exact same cretins who crucify Loma and Clenelo and refer to them as ''hype jobs.'' It really does beggar belief how ignorant and vile they are.

    You'll never hear a peep out of them about the WBC still having The Dosser ranked #1 after coming of one-sided sans one round brutal back-to-back KO defeats in his own backyard and now they're acting like he deserves to waltz into a title fight off the back of beating a near 39 y/io Helenius who has only beaten the bang average Kownacki in over a decade. Helenius' second best win since 2011 is Erkan Teper for goodness sake. The level of Helenius' competition over the last decade or so is significantly worse than The Dosser's has been and that's really saying something

    But if AJ can hit Usyk then Wilder will knock him out. Yeah because it's really that simple :facepalm:
     
    Serge, Oct 17, 2022
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  10. rinsj

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    Wilder wouldn't need to land as often.
     
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  11. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder would win this imo, totally different fighter to AJ.

    Personally I doubt Usyk wants any part of it - the Fury fight will be his last fight at HW.
     
    MrBarry465, Oct 17, 2022
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  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Usyk as just under Fury as best heavy in the world. But I might be putting the cart before the horse; we still haven't really seen his chin or resolve sorely tested. I'm not sure he ever got caught flush by AJ, and neither fight looked like he was fighting for his life. Granted, that may be more testament to AJ''s relative lack of skill...
     
    RulesMakeItInteresting, Oct 17, 2022
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  13. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk streets ahead in every department over Wilder except POWER. Wilder has had everybody he’s fought on the canvas at some point and it would be stupid to think he could not do the same to Usyk. Wilder has beaten plenty of boxers better than him due to his power alone and that’s what makes his fights so exciting .
     
    Mickc, Oct 17, 2022
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  14. Reinhardt

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    I whole heartedly disagree, Wilder is a massive jump up in power. He has the single hardest punch since Earnie Shavers.
     
    Reinhardt, Oct 17, 2022
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  15. FrankinDallas

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    My boxing algorithm, designed by MIT scientists, has determined a ration of 80/20 for an Usyk win, or
    looking at it from Wilders' reference, it's 20/80 to win. The major parameters are Usyks footwork and head
    movement, as against Wilders' historical one punch power.
     
    FrankinDallas, Oct 17, 2022
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