Wilder vs Vitali

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Jun 13, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Vitali Stoppage

    42 vote(s)
    80.8%
  2. Vitali PTS

    3 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. Wilder Stoppage

    7 vote(s)
    13.5%
  4. Wilder PTS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Excellent post
     
  2. Drago

    Drago Member Full Member

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    One question in this match up is unanswered - like WIlder would say - TO THIS DAY: :D

    First: I dont buy the story about Dr Ironjaw, he got hit 2-3 times with full force by Lewis and 1-2 times by Sanders, there is not really an elite puncher in his prime in his record, Briggs was over the hill and couldnt catch him.

    Those shots by Lewis and Sanders are to less for that "iron jaw" argument.
    He was completely KOed by Pele Reid, and sorry ppl even if it was a kick and no punch, Reid didnt even kick with full force, that spin kick was more lame then with full acceleration (watch Peter Graham KO Badr Hari with a spin kick, that s a full forced spin kick!)

    Second:
    Now to the question: Wilder has never fought a real puncher to this day. We dont know if he can take a shot of AJ or the Klitschko brothers and not go down. Sorry but Ortiz is NOT a real puncher, i am sure he was the hardest puncher Wilder ever faced to this day, but until he doesnt get hit by a AJ or Klitschko type puncher we will never know.

    Vitali could take some heavy shots that s proven (unproven he was an ironjaw like McCall or Chuvalo through), can Wilder?
    Ortiz rocked him heavy and maybe Ruiz could knock him down with a combo like he did with AJ.
     
  3. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    LOL what a mismatch this would be..

    Wilder couldn't even keep Fury on the canvas how does anyone think Wilder would have any chance of knocking Vitali down??

    Vitali would deliver a similar painful beat down Briggs got...
     
  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Or his team could pay off some drug testing lab like they did with Povetkin, then run off like scared little piggies all the way home..
     
  5. Drago

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    According to official sources and confirmed by Bert Sugar, George Chuvalo was also never floored by a punch in over 90 professional fights.
     
  6. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    of course I do... kewis/Vitali and Pac/JMM... well EXCUUUUSE me for thinking you made a serious post. :lol:
    (C'mon, it looks like an actual pick)
     
  7. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I saw the video, vitali was a skinny teenager at the time
     
  8. Drago

    Drago Member Full Member

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    Wilder would have a chance to knocking almost ANY HW down, maybe not out but down.
    I was suspecting his power too for many years, but honestly i would not bet money that a ONE PUNCH shot of Lewis or Tyson is as devastating.
    Foreman, Shavers and Wlad had a similar one-punch-ko-shot like Wilder, but there are not many others that can do what Wilder can with a single punch.
    That one right hand Lewis hit Rahman with in the rematch comes close, yes but even there Rahman was first hit by a left a little bit before that right came in.

    Even Lewis and Tyson mostly KOed ppl with combinations, very rare only with 1 landed right or left hand.
     
  9. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you want to know why fighters you mentioned haven't had one punch knockouts like wilder landed on breazeale? because they didn't have a punching bag stand still and lower his guard like that.

    how people are still amazed at that wilder knockout of breazeale is interesting.
     
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  10. kirk

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    Vitali UD.

    He be too strong and too active.

    Besides being hard to hit clean, when you do manage to hit him hes got an iron chin. So Wilders most exceptional trait wont be bailing him out of this one.
     
  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Breazeale reminded me of those YouTube vid showing some moron thinking he is hard trying to throw some **** at someone else who knows how to defend themselves...

    He obviously thought Fury took Wilder's power I will too but he forgot Fury can box..
     
  12. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    remeber thunder knocking out grimsley? its near the exact same knockout. youd think that people that watch boxing should know that what wilder did to breazeale could happen in near every heavyweight fight if one of them stood still and the other loaded up on a punch.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    surely everyone semi good kos lots of bums.
     
  14. Drago

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    I dont count Breazeale. Just watch Ortiz, he hit him on the forehead (not temple or chin) and Ortiz went down.