Wilder wants a 4th Fury fight

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    :lol:

    My favorite Wilder outbursts are when he starts talking like he's trying to emulate Silesius.
     
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  2. ShortRound

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    Men at the top of any highly competitive field need to have very high levels of confidence and self-belief, which can easily slide into delusion. Wilder has more natural confidence and belief than most at the top and he didn't believe that anyone could beat him ("my grandmother told me that I was anointed by God"). He also acquired a large following of highly ethnocentric but low IQ fans, who were very quick to blow smoke up his backside. So losing to a trash-talking flabby white gypsy with "pillows for fists" in one of the more humiliating beatdowns of a champion in heavyweight history did immense damage to his ego. In response he became completely untethered from reality in order to salvage his immense sense of self-belief and self-regard and desperately grasped on to any excuse he could to explain away his defeats.

    Wilder is a delusional moron and a savage. He is also a man of immense courage and a warrior through and through, as anyone with a sense of impartiality can admit. If he needs to delude himself in order to perform at his best then I can't criticise it. A completely accurate assessment of reality often isn't adaptive, which is why humans have evolved to have delusional (or to put it more charitably, overly optimistic) tendencies.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Absolutely, but I do believe that Tyson Fury would have shaken Wilder's right hand and awarded him a kudos even if that same hand had delivered him a brutal KO loss, and even while harboring a profound resolve to avenge it.

    It's a compound of Wilder's deficiencies in intellect and his related susceptibility to those smoke-blowers (many of whom are militant, dogmatic, ideological, at least in the pseudo sense) that has led him into the realms of abject delusion. It didn't have to be that way. His fires could have been stoked without the descent into lunacy.


    I almost said, apropos of this post,
    , that a thing I do respect Wilder for is that he's as willing to meet his maker in the ring as he is to send another to the shadow realm. His fundamental shortcomings and unpolished skillset are fair game, but his Colosseum talk is for real, a born gladiator. I'd be more critical of the "I want a body on my record" remarks if he'd never balanced/qualified them by pointedly asserting (and demonstrating) that he's willing to die by the sword he lives by;

    "They know my demeanor, and, if I say I’m going in there to try to kill a man like I have, I accept that, in return, he will have to kill me as well."

    I can't really argue with those words, as a man who enjoys watching other men beat each other in the head and enjoys partaking in the same activity on a weekly basis himself. Wilder's comment may appall a lot of people, but there's an integrity in it, however odd an integrity it might seem to be.
     
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  4. Midwood

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    To this day wilder does not understand he is brain damaged , he may be brain dead after 4th fight.
     
  5. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea ? I wanted to f×+k Debbie Harry when I was 15 years old ,



    That never happened either .
     
  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The irony is he tried cherry picking Fury and now Fury will haunt him for the rest of his days.
     
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  7. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has a dent in his head....lol
     
  8. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That's pretty fkin tragic .. the fury-wilder ship has long since sailed now.. mate you got bumped on your head big time twice by a fat british pub singer just deal with it.. we wuz cans.. tomato cans
     
  9. thurmanthegoat1

    thurmanthegoat1 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Denty windmiller
     
  10. slash

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    There's been 4 fight series before in boxing. Not so much at heavyweight, though. Deontay needs to work his way back up first.
     
  11. CooperKupp

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    “Da Powa Of Da Yulaverse!”
     
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  12. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it would sell.
    Wilder comes to fight to the finish and has punch like a horse kick.

    thing is there's no motive for Fury. it's a dangerous experience for Fury & he has not one obligation or thing to prove with Wilder. his superiority firmly established.

    Usyk is a much better fight for Fury. the worst thing likely to happen is he might get outboxed by ' the middleweight' . but he would likely receive more damage beating Wilder 3 times than he'd get losing to Usyk 3 times
     
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  13. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    So you've beaten Ortiz,
    What could be your next trick,
    Can you step up in class,
    With a smart cherry pick?

    What about that fat man,
    With the glistening pate,
    If you knock him spark out,
    They'll think that your great,

    Sure he beat the great champ,
    But so long ago,
    He's past it by now,
    But most folks won't know,

    At last I'll have beaten,
    A meaningful name,
    To boost up my earnings,
    And add to my fame,

    And with that decision,
    At that very hour,
    Wilder sealed his fate,
    As that cherry proved sour,
     
  14. Wasteman

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    There's room for a new word to describe the convoluted malady of misfiring synapses which must come together to form beliefs such as those held by Wilder.

    "Delusional" doesn't quite cut it.
     
  15. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I disagree that it will sell to the point it will give each fighter the money they want. The interest dropped from the 2nd to the 3rd fight. It will nose dive for a 4th fight. There is no appeal for the casual. Hell even hardcore fans have no interest in it.