Wilder was 212 pounds vs 254 pound Fury

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  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah and would happen too 100%
     
  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have to remember how much better Fury is than Wlad.
    But yeah would take those two over them
     
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  3. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They most likely could but lets remember how tall Wilder is and how skinny his legs are, his Torso is massive but he has the Jon Jones legs
     
  4. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    It’s less the weight and more the height as far I’m concerned.

    At a certain point, it’s just too easy for the tall fighters to hit and not get hit.

    It’s obviously not a guarantee. It’s just an extreme advantage that could be insurmountable if the taller fighter is reasonably skilled.
     
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  5. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Fury would rag doll Wilder in the clinch but nope, Wilder even at 212 has a freak strength. Too bad he didn’t start boxing as a youngster, so as to develop him properly, technically.
     
  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I've been saying for years that smaller fighters can still compete in the HW division, and fighters like Wilder and soon Usyk will bear that out.

    The rise of the SHW is a very overblown concept. There have really only been a handful of legitimate SHWs in the past few decades; the rest have all been big guys with exploitable flaws or overweight fighters nothing special in the skills department. If every CW was unleashed on the HW scene tomorrow there'd be major seismic shifts in the landscape.

    Only Fury and Joshua have the combination of size, speed and skill to count as modern SHWs, and both men have shown vulnerabilities to smaller fighters in the past.
     
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  7. lencoreastside

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    Louis kod guys like buddy Baer and Abe Simon and Primo CArnera ..etc.. .. .guys the size of today's heavies.. .....
     
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  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wilder has the height and frame of a much bigger man, and usually is closer to 225. Height matters in a sport, less than weight, but it is still significant. He also hits like a mack truck. We haven't seen someone who is A. shorter than average B. lighter than average and C. lighter hitting than average, EVER dominate the HW division. Styles make fights, and the most successful HW's are almost always large, movement based HWs, or hard hitting HW's, either large or small. Wilder is extremely tall and hard hitting. If Usyk comes out and takes over the HW division, then you have a much better argument that old timers like Ali would have a chance in the modern era.
     
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  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And guys a lot worse than the fighters today of the same size.....
     
  10. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Being 6'2 212 is different from being 6'7 212...It's more the height than the weight, as well as the rule changes that I think would nullify their strengths in many cases. By no means am I saying they can't compete, simply saying it's different and hard to project.
     
  11. Wass1985

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    So now we should have height divisions.........
     
  12. chico g

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    Definitely more to do with the height. Very hard for a short guy to manhandle a taller guy, in a wrestling fight even if both guys are a similar weight. The leverage is the key to it. Deontay's centre of gravity is more evenly distributed, when he's pushed by a guy similar to vertical proportions. Strength don't factor into size anyway. A orangutan is stronger than a sumo wrestler but half the size and weight. Truth be told Deontay's ratio and density of muscle fibres is higher in number than the average human being. That's how he generates that devastating power! Lol.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    From what I've seen, when people say "modern heavyweights", they are talking about the Lewis, Bowe's, AJ's, Mike Tyson's etc of the world. But those are the cream of the crop of modern heavyweights and don't represent the typical heavyweight. Look at who Wilder and AJ beat on the come up. The majority of those guys could be handled by a smaller heavyweight of yesteryear like Ezzard Charles or Jersey Joe Walcott or Floyd Patterson. All but perhaps their best opponent's.

    And men like Liston and Louis wouldn't be fish out of water either. I mean with the best modern heavyweights, things could get difficult. But every modern day heavyweight isn't a prime Lennox Lewis. So it's not as if say Liston was transported to today from 1960 that he'd have to compete in a heavyweight division full of prime Lewises, Bowes and Tyson's.

    I think that Roy Jones, Jr showed that the average modern day heavyweight could be taken by an old time heavyweight as Jones was 193 pounds the same size as many yesteryear heavies, when he beat Ruiz who more accurately represents the typical modern day heavyweight.
     
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  14. lencoreastside

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    That's not humanly possible. .
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a fact pal.