Wilder Will KO Ortiz Very Quickly - Styles Make Fights

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  1. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    This is a good fight on paper, but it's a stylistic mismatch in favor of Wilder. Ortiz is good on the inside, and has done well against fighters who tried to duke it out with him, but he's facing an altogether different opponent here.

    Wilder will stay on the outside and throw bombs at his sitting-duck target from distance. Ortiz won't be able to respond, because doesn't have good enough footspeed and evasive maneuverability necessary to get inside on Wilder without getting caught, and stay there.

    Povetkin has those qualities, and is the only man in the division who can beat Wilder. These other guys will all get knocked out in the mid-to-late rounds. I expect Wilder to be the unified champ within 2019.
     
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  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua would beat Wilder.
     
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  3. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed Ortiz will ko Wilder early
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree! I think Anthony Joshua could also beat Deontay Wilder, along with Alexander Povetkin.

    Otherwise, Kubrat Pulev could very well give Deontay Wilder his toughest challenge, if not beat him. Same with Jarrell Miller and Dillian Whyte. Until Wilder faces those other boxers, we really won't know how good Deontay Wilder is at that top level.
     
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  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I really think you underrate the footspeed of Ortiz and his movement generally.
     
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  6. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Ortiz has many qualities that have previously given Wilder loads of trouble. Over 3000 amateur fights is no joke, that guy knows what he's doing.
     
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  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Wilder has a (slight) reach disadvantage and is fighting a skilled southpaw, I think to assume the outside battle is already won on his part is a little naive. His feet will move fast than Ortiz's, no doubt, but will he really know where he's going? Or will he just walk faster in a counter shot?

    This might be one of the few fights I actually stay up for
     
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  8. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    He better cause otherwise the fight will turn into his worst nightmare. If Ortiz gets confident he will give Wilder problems. As a matter of fact I think Wilder will try to KO Ortiz quick.
     
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  9. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Absolutely no chance, have any of you actually seen Ortiz box? This forum ridicules Wilder on a daily basis yet people believe he will KO a world class southpaw with ease?
     
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  10. velagod

    velagod Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny thing is out of the two up coming heavyweight title fights I believe that Ortiz is more of a style nightmare for aj and parker is more of a style headache for wilder.

    Ortiz wouldn’t have to go looking for aj, Joshua would stay in front of him and Isn’t as athletic as wilder who I think will look to pop the jab at range with Ortiz.

    were as parker with his fast hands and quicker feet than most heavyweights (when he has weighed in light) could really put wilder on the back foot and get on wilders chest and Steal rounds, so could make a case if opponents were reversed would be even tougher fights for both especially Ortiz for aj.
     
  11. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz is the much better boxer and has a better jab with longer reach... Wilder will find it difficult on the outside and if he tries to get inside with his pitiful defence Ortiz will find a home for the left hook... Lights out. Ortiz in 5.
     
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  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whyte won't be much of a challenge unlike others you listed.

    He's mediocre boxer with average power and low skill level. Ortiz, Parker and few others are miles ahead of Whyte.
     
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  13. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Whyte won't have any chance vs Wilder. Whyte is relatively slow, throws a lot of wild shots and his power is nothing special for a HW. I think this is pretty much a wide UD for Wilder or even a late stoppage. Chisora should have won the fight vs Whyte. This tells pretty much everything if you should have lost to a shot Chisora who is done for good.
     
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  14. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll say this...Ortiz is the best HEAVYWEIGHT counterpuncher to come along within the last 5 years or so. The last time I've seen a great HEAVYWEIGHT counterpuncher like that was James Toney.

    Wilder will get countered Saturday night, but the question is will the shot hurt him?
     
  15. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I assume late stoppage, but yeah Ortiz is a turdnugget.

    Povetkin is also a turdnugget.
     
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