Wilder Will KO Ortiz Very Quickly - Styles Make Fights

Dubblechin is another unfortunate Dunning-Kruger sufferer.

 

He broke his hand flooring Stiverne in their first fight and had to have surgery to repair it. Did you forget that or did you just choose to ignore it?

After going 12 with Wilder, Stiverne spent DAYS in the hospital puking up black goo. He said he was dehydrated, but anyone watching the fight could see the heavy Stiverne was in no way dehydrated. Wilder's punches brutalized him.

He broke his hand and tore his bicep and still knocked out Chris Arreola. Name one fight where ANY heavyweight champ EVER broke his hand and tore his bicep in the same fight and scored a KO win?

He knocked out Washington with basically one shot. Washington was reeling all over the ring and couldn't recover.

He knocked out Szpilka and sent him out of the ring on a stretcher to the hospital where he remained for days and had to take a year off of boxing to recover ... and when he returned he was ruined. He had no ability to take a shot at all. Wilder's KO broke him.

When did those other guys (Joshua Parker or Povetkin) score KOs with broken hands or torn biceps? Joshua, Parker and Povetkin are all clubbers. They don't put guys in the hospital. Wilder does.

Wilder left Liakhovich convulsing on the floor. A couple fights later, Liakhovich outboxed Andy Ruiz (who is supposed to be able to punch) and lost a bad decision.

And he's going to KO Ortiz. You know it, too, that's why you made it a point to say if Wilder KOs him it's because Ortiz isn't good anymore.

It's why your butthole puckered up when I mentioned Wilder fighting Tyson Fury this year.

Wilder's clearly the best puncher in the division. You've just been ragging on him for so long you're afraid to admit it.

 

I started another thread here asking who people would pick in a fight between Joseph Parker and Luis Ortiz, and people on this board clearly don't think Ortiz is a tomato can ... unless you bring up Ortiz-Wilder.

Then, all of sudden, Ortiz is a joke.

 

If he's clearly the best puncher he would have KO'd those guys earlier.

Joshua stopped Molina faster and would have destroyed the glass jawed Polish hooligan, Duhaupas, Washington and Arreola faster and more impressively as well. So would Povetkin.

I've already gone on record that Wilder will win a late stoppage or decision against a slightly faded but still game Ortiz. So there goes your narrative

As for Fury. Again Dunning-Kruger. Use your brain. Nobody with any sense wants to see Fury in a big fight with ANYONE this year. I want to see Wilder/Ortiz winner against the Joshua/Parker winner. Best fighting the best. Obviously you don't!

 

The only way I see Wilder losing is if he gets reckless, if he feels he has caught Ortiz with something and goes full windmill and walks on to a counter.

Personally I think Wilder will use his long left arm to jab his way to victory, maybe even a late stoppage.

Wilder knows he maybe one victory away from a huge payday against Joshua, I don't see him risking it early while Ortiz is sharp and fresh.

So I see Wilder jabbing his way through the early rounds and maybe if Ortiz fades he will step on him, if not he then will take the decision.

 

That's the way I see it as well.

 

I think he is a joke because he is a joke , not because of Wilder.

I actually think Wilder is good for the sport. Comes in shape , tries his best and does have some skills.

Just don't think a 38 year old who is always slow and sluggish should be fighting for the title.

Id put someone like Chagaev above Ortiz.

 

Everyone wants to see Tyson Fury in a big fight this year. Why wouldn't they?

Ali came back after three and a half year and fought the top the #1 contender Quarry, the #3 contender Bonavena, and the champ Frazier in a three-month span.

Fury said he wanted to come back like Ali. More power to him.

The only people who don't are the UK fans who were "afraid" Charles Martin was "too soon" for Anthony Joshua.

There are threads on this board with those idiotic posts.

You were probably one of them, too.

 

Andy Ruiz beats him now? (Christ)

Wilder was stopped in the amateurs 10 YEARS AGO.

Joshua was stopped seven years ago. Is Andy Ruiz going to knock out Joshua, too?

Good Lord.

 

Wilder's haymaker throwing technician could be his downfall as well. If he learned to throw punches with proper technique...he'd be significantly better than he is now.

 

Did Ali spend that time doing hard drugs, drinking and gorging himself on food? Fury is also taking a ton of weight off... He needs to ease himself back into things if he's actually going to be a factor again(might never be the same again)

I'm not a UK fan. Completely moot point.

Wilder/Ortiz should fight the Joshua/Parker winner as opposed to a 2 year+ lay off Fury - It's CLEARLY the better fight. Not sure why you're arguing this. Then again as I've pointed out before you're thicker than a brick wall.

 

Wilder might pull out a good boxing performance for this one. He must be careful not to look too good though or he might scare Gastony Joshua away .

 

I believe Ortiz is more skilled and has a higher boxing IQ than Wilder. However, Ortiz is old and just like Estrada-SRR last weekend, being the better athlete and having more power can sometimes negate the boxing ability of the opponent.

I see this as a close fight, with Wilder maybe a 60/40 favorite. I think if Ortiz doesn't get caught early or shows world class whiskers, he'll eventually get to Wilder who isn't that hard to find in the ring. I mean Wilder was getting tagged by Washington/Spilka FFS and rocked by Molina. Ortiz is better than those guys so he definitely has a shot here.

I still lean towards Wilder because of his age, athletic ability, and power but Ortiz is a live dog IMO.

 

It's possible Wilder catches Ortiz early and KO's him, his right hand is deadly. But I was thinking about this on the way home from work today, when has Wilder knocked out an opponent with a left hand, uppercut or hook? Correct me if I'm wrong, but all his KO's have been straight right hands. Now Wilder has a good jab when he decides to use it but really he has two weapons: his jab and his right hand. What happens if Ortiz takes away the right hand? Do you think Wilder can adapt? Because I haven't seen it in his fights, he usually gets to his opponent with...a right hand. Mayweather or Hopkins Wilder is not. Plus Wilder really isn't hard to hit, he doesn't use a lot of upper body movement.

Anyways I hope we get a good fight either way, my lean is towards Wilder because of his age, power and athletic ability but I think Ortiz has a very live shot here. And maybe Wilder proves me wrong and fights a smart fight like he did against Stiverne, where he controls Ortiz with his jab and wins a decision. Wilder, for all his faults, does have the size and speed advantage over Ortiz. That is probably enough to win.