I wasn't impressed with Wilder's jab, solid but he used it more as a measuring stick and banked on his power punching to keep Stiverne at bay. Wilder's other fights really haven't been long enough to demonstrate any kind of jabbing ability. Prior to Wlad all everyone could talk about was Pulev's athetlic aiblity and how that would be THE X FACTOR Wlad has never faced. Pulev comes from a soccar background, and earns his victories through his quick jab, high volume punching, stamina, and mobility, he's an athlete. Wilder is the slugger who had been banking on raw punching power thus far. A picture of two men's toros, one bent over in an exaggerated pose isn't much to judge.
On that pic Klitschko is a little bit lean forward. No matter that wont help WIlder. Nothing gonna happen Wilder. Tho if he face Povetkin first, there wont be match with Klitschko. [url]http://klitschko-brothers.com/images/Deontay%20Wilder%20Happy%2027.jpg[/url] And still Klitschko shoulder is not full up. Some people got to accept the truth and that is no one beat that guy, he is simply unbeatable.
I know David Haye caused Wilder loads of problems, even wobbled him and that's with sparring gloves and headguard. I think Wilder is a very good boxer with terriffic power but his durability in the end will be his downfall, just like Lennox lewis. Lennox's only losses came because of one punch knockouts. Lennox could easily of gone undefeated in his career & Wilder will have that same problem.
That may be true, but next time they meet, Wilder will be a much more seasoned fighter. That experience Wilder had with Wlad was invaluable. Wlad is at the top of his game. Wilder is only going to get better.
CHEF, i do think this Wlad will beat Wilder, but i dont think this is the best Wlad. Best Wlad was 2007-2012 in my mind. The best version, the prime version of Wlad goes away with late Great Manny. His reflexes probably are not the same, cardio, movement and so on i do think this is the reason he clinch a bit more now.
I know that's what I said, but in reality, I mean Wlad's skillset is as good as it's ever going to get. Honestly, he showed a lot of vulnerability in his last fight that Wilder could expose with his reach and speed. Did Wlad have a bad training camp that fight? He looked very uncomfortable having to box.
I agree with this. Some are getting too carried away with Wilder's win over Stiverne. It's a fine win but let's not overlook a couple of important things: 1. Stiverne is not physically similar to Klitschko 2. Stiverne is not technically developed as Klitschko 3. Stiverne, in truth, probably is not even as good as Pulev. Watch Wilder vs Stiverne again and look for these; Wilder has a habit of keeping his right hand well below his chin, in fact, he often kept his right fist below his collar bone. Maybe Russ Anber can straighten that out or maybe Wilder is going to end up being the next Michael Grant ( he will if he does not keep that right hand up ). Imagine what Klitschko's left hook would do to Wilder without that right hand in position to defend his chin. Wilder got away with throwing a long range uppercut versus Stiverne. If he tries that against Klitschko, Wilder is going to eat a right hand that causes him to do the splits.
thing with wlad is, he's not a great boxer either...he's a tall, strong guy who can punch. what happens if he faces a taller, stronger guy who can punch harder? he's never had to face anybody like that. And wilder has speed and movement around the ring that would put him at and advantage against wlad. To me, wlad's defenses have been mostly very unimpressive...but he's had a very weak field to compete with. against wilder the talent differential is not there....neither are all the tremendous physical advantages wlad enjoyed against most of his opposition. and the thing we know about wlad is, he has a weak chin. it woud probably be a blow out.
How ignorance you must be to say Wlad is not a great boxer? I stop reading right there .... Against Pulev, Klitschko did his job pretty well. He knock rly tough guy, so i dont see about this complaining. Also lets not forget that Klitschko have injury issue with his biceps and postpone the fight. And for the god sake Pulev is very good opponent im pretty sure he will beat both Fury and Wilder.
Just compared Vlad with Wilder. Vlad's balance is totally superior to Wilder, his jab is much harder, faster, hook-off-the-jab incredible. Vlad's right hand is much more powerful, his left hook is in another class, his defense is superior, his amateur background is superior, gold medal, world amateur champion, world military champion, International champion, has fought more fights amateur and pro. Vlad is much stronger, heavier without any fat. Good thing Vitali retired or he would have knocked Stiverne out cold, then knocked Wilder out. How did Wilder even get ranked without ever fighting anyone ranked and why did Wilder get paid more money? No rematch clause? Vlad is quicker, not just with his hands, but his footwork is far superior. In sparring for the Wach fight Vlad knocked Wilder down with a jab and flattened him with a left hook, beat him from one side of the ring to the other. There is, at least a couple who post here some who saw it at ringside. Vlad's technique is totally superior, no comparison at all. Compare for yourself. Wilder's legs were way too far apart, when Stiverne hurt him, he backed off. When Vlad lands a punch on Wilder, he will get knocked out. Vlad is superior is everyway. Wilder fought a prefabricated fight, he just went through the motions. His right hand did nothing to Stiverne, you can see it coming from a mile away and his jab was slow, no snap on it. When he threw combinations he got wild. Watch for yourself. If Vitali had not retired, Stiverne would have been knocked out and then Wilder. As far as Fury is concerned, he is 6 feet 9 inches tall, much heavier, so unless Wilder gets lucky, he will get outboxed. By the way, Vlad is the real champion, IBF, WBA, WBO, IBO, Ring champion. Vlad wants to fight Wilder ASAP, he wants to get Vitali's title before he retires. I doubt if Haymon will allow Wilder to come near Vlad though. Since Vitali is the emeritus WBC champion, hope he can findn the time to demand a fight with Wilder, which, according to WBC rules, he can do. If Wilder can't hurt Stiverne, he surely can't hurt Vitali, if he can hit Vitali. Wilder is very open to a counter punch......go look at reality. Showtime can claim that the WBC is the only heavyweight championship all they want, but where were they when Vitali had that title? Showtime does not want Wilder to fight Vitali or Vlad, and were all know about Haymon.............
Wilder isn't as strong as Wladimir. And he sure as hell doesn't hit as hard. The next time Wilder steps in the ring with Wladimir, they won't be using 20oz gloves that Wladimir dropped him with in sparring. They also won't have headgear on. lol I CANT WAIT to see Wilder eat a flush left hook. But honestly I see Povetkin beating Wilder first. Even 6'9" 260lb Fury has a good shot at beating Wilder. And Wlad isn't a great boxer?? Lol you're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
Wilder isn't anywhere close to being ready for Wladimir. So far, he hasn't shown anything that suggests he could avoid the (borderline excessive) clinching. On top of that, Wladimir has started hiding lethal left hooks in his clinch attempts. He ko'ed Pulev so clean because Pulev thought that Wladimir was just falling in with another clinch. It was an experienced strategy that Pulev fell for. People are jumping the gun on Wilder already. He still needs a lot more development, despite his potential.