Wilder willing to go to the UK, seems to be getting realistic in his demands

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Is Wilder smart for once? It's either play b side to AJ or fight Breazeale for 1 mil$
     
  2. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Great news. If it doesn’t happen I do believe it will be because of the split, as I reckon team Joshua will be quite tough in negotiations, given his commercial factor, and now having all but one belt.
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Eddie will try to put Whyte in with Wilder next


    And I’d love to see Joshua vs Povetkin

    Then the “big showdown” after those fights. ( assuming Joshua and Wilder both win)

    Wilder vs Joshua is not quite ready to be made yet
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    At what cost?

    I watched an interview where it was claimed Wilder was offered $3 mil to face Whyte and he then allegedly asked for $7 mil.

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    I read an article where it is titled
    Wilder vs. Ortiz salaries: Deontay Wilder nets career-high $2.1 million payday

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    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/3/...ntay-wilder-career-high-2-million-boxing-news

    I wonder how much Wilder would want to face Joshua in the UK.

    The article also says Joshua is reportedly going to pocket $20 million for his UK pay-per-view bout vs. Parker,



    Another interesting article below


    Anthony Joshua vs Joseph Parker prize money: how much of the fight purse will the winner get?
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/...s-joseph-parker-prize-money-much-fight-purse/
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Yes, atlast. This will be team Wilders 1st legitimate effort to get this fight made if they do actually come.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    A Wilder fight will sell better than the Parker fight so Wilder would earn considerably more than Joe even on the same split.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    dont disagree with that but still wonder at what cost
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I posted in the other thread, Wilder is ready to fight Joshua in the UK for a lesser purse split if the purse split is flipped in Wilder's favor after he beats Joshua and wins all the belts.

    The sticking point is Hearn puts in Joshua's contracts that if Joshua loses, he still gets the same purse split as the first fight.

    Some idiots take that, because they don't think they can beat Joshua anyway.

    Wilder DOES believe he'll beat Joshua and he feels he should get the higher purse split for the rematch if he wins ALL the belts and has ALREADY BEATEN Joshua once.

    Wilder is willing to take lesser money for the first fight because HE BELIEVES he can win.

    Hearn demands Joshua gets the same split even if he loses because they DON'T have the same confidence.

    Miller, for example, doesn't believe he can beat Joshua. (Nobody else does, either.) So he'll take whatever Hearn offers.

    That's why Joshua-Miller is more likely to happen.
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder wants AJ and there is no doubt about it. He is taking away all the excuses because he is confident of victory and plans to clean up on the money end in the rematch which will be held in the states. That's if he wins.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

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    That's not true. If Parker had won he would of got a bigger split in the rematch, they agreed Parker would get 55/45 in his favour if he beat Joshua.

    Fact is Wilder asking for the same split but in his favour is the same as 50/50 Split over 2 fights instead of one. Just because you win doesn't mean you become the big draw. Mosley didn't make Oscar money after beating De La Hoya, Hopkins didn't make Tito money after he beat Tito. What it would earn Wilder is more leverage to get a bigger share, but he wouldn't make anywhere what he would against anyone but Joshua, so expecting to make as much as Joshua is not realistic.
     
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  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    This was a smoke screen in the first place. Wilder demanded a fight in Vegas @ 50/50 so now he can appear to concede to AJ's demands to 40/60 and a fight in the UK. Which was always clear that it would never happen any other way.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good.

    So if Wilder knocks out Joshua and wins ALL the titles in the division ... Hearn should have no problem flipping the purse split and accepting that Wilder deserves what Joshua got in the first fight.

    (Although, something tells me Joshua got more than 55% of the cut in the first fight with Parker, though.)
     
  13. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yet when I've seen Hearn being asked this question numerous times. i.e Joshua to take any purse, and if he gets beat, Wilder to take the same. Eddie Hearn agreed. "Done Deal". Straight off, without hesitation.

    So where are you hearing/reading this from? Could you provide links? Cheers.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    No because Wilder is asking for more than Parker is, potentially a lot more.

    Joshua got 65-70% for the first fight, why, because he's the A-side, the draw, the one with most of the leverage. It's why Parker agreed to 30-35% for the fight and then 55% for the rematch. Spread over 2 fights that's basically 42.5/57.5% - 45/55%.

    Wilder isn't even asking for the same deal as Parker, he's asking for more. He's asking for 50/50 in a different format and that 50/50 demand may not seem much more but it suggests they are equal draws which they are not. So Wilder needs to come down on his demands a little further to make this fight realistic.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    None of those instances you mentioned involved an undisputed heavyweight champion.

    If the undefeated Deontay Wilder knocks out Anthony Joshua and becomes the undefeatad, undisputed WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO champ, the guy Wilder knocked out who has no belts DOES NOT deserve more than him for the rematch.

    You can argue any way you like, but that's the fact.

    And the world heavyweight championship is a whole other thing.

    When Tyson fought Douglas, Tyson got $10 million. Douglas got less than a million. After Douglas won, for his first defense against Holyfield, Buster's purse was upwards of $18 million.

    When Holyfield fought Tyson, Tyson got $30 million. Evander got like $5 million. When Evander won, Evander got $33 million for the rematch. Tyson got much less.

    Should Deontay Wilder knock out Joshua in the UK and win ALL the belts, you can argue until you're blue in the face but there's no way in hell Joshua deserves more than Wilder after LOSING to him and having no belts.

    Sorry. That argument VANISHES.
     
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