Wilder's $50,000,000 offer to Joshua exposed - Lack of funding.

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  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This wasn't offered as an objection by anybody except the OP...
     
  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would anyone believe Warren had anything to do with it? He has no interest in either fighter so of course one wouldn't think he anything to do with the fight.

    Subsequently we find out that his role was convincing BT sport to put up the money. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    Funnily enough I have not seen you or any Wilder fanboy say Frank Warren is lying and BT sport had nothing to do with trying to get this fight made.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Are you schizophrenic or autistic?

    Do you not remember it was YOU posted a video with Eddie Hearn suggesting Frank Warren was behind the deal to support your argument that he was trying to get bt to broadcast the fight so sky wouldn't show it(which is ridiculous)?

    The reason I have little interest in this bt/sky nonsense is simple due to the fact that Hearn/AJ rejected the 50 million before any of this information/speculation was disclosed.

    Which makes them cowards/duckers. So it wouldn't have mattered how good or bad the terms were they never had any intention in accepting any deal.
     
  4. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean they refused to agree to a deal without knowing the details.

    I call that smart
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You negotiate the details after you accept the offer.

    That's how it works.

    Which is why when Wilder accepted the 15 million, both parties still were negotiating the clauses and stipulations in the contract.

    And the contract was sent after the offer was accepted not before. And then to top it off your Pimp wasn't even sure if he sent through the contact or not. Then lied about AJ signing the contract.

    We can go round and round forever it will always be recorded as fact that your boy turned down 50 million.

    Everyone inside understands this besides you low IQ insecure rent boys who are still harping on about it whilst clutching at straws in order to desperately spread a different false narrative that no one is buying.
     
  6. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You think that Sky isn't a 'promotional company'?

    Virtually all broadcasters rely on 'promotion' to achieve financial success.

    When Sky are paid by Nissan to play an advert/commercial for their latest car is this not 'Promotion'?
    When Sky are playing an advert/commercial for Joshua v Povetkin is this not 'Promotion'?



    You're seriously naive to suggest that Sky do not 'Promote' Joshua.
    They are a 'Promotional company'.

    If they believe Joshua will fight Wilder in BT for $50,000,000.....
    They would pay Joshua $55,000,000 to not take that fight.



    Incredibly naive.
     
  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    “Negotiate after you accept the offer, that’s how it works”

    You are out to lunch on this this point Stephy!
     
  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What part of that quote don't you understand dummy?

    You don't negotiate networks, venues , rematches , who enters the ring first, gloves etc before an offer is agreed.

    Those things are finalised once both parties iron out and accept the clauses in the contract after the offer has been agreed.

    Let me simplify this for you because we know most of you duckroom halfwits are football louts.

    Imagine your football team is interested in securing the services of a player. A club then makes an offer for that player. Only after the offer has been accepted is a contract presented and negotiated. If the offer is rejected the contract isn't negotiated between the two parties.

    Do you get it now? Or do I need to change the text to the colors of the rainbow?
     
  9. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    You sound like a guttersnipe.
     
  10. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    We'll have to agree to differ on our assessment of Povetkin.
    The ranking organisations, Boxrec, Ring, WBA have him 3, WBO, IBO 2, IBF 4. He doesn't feature in WBC, maybe the cheque got lost in the post.

    Despite his previous achievement I don't rate Fury at the top level yet on the strength of his 2 comeback performances against 4th rate opponents. Ortiz has done little to justify the hype around him and has an inferior record to Povetkin. Whyte may have a claim on current activity but not enough to topple Povetkin in my view.

    You're asking me how Wilder's in an inferior negotiating position and using his team offering AJ a guaranteed $50m as proof of the respective fighters equality?

    The 80m figure was for two fights. Assuming a Wilder win it was a guarantee of 30 for the second for AJ making 80 over the two.

    On the reported terms the fight would have to net $160m for the fighters alone to reach 80m for AJ. This was never seriously advanced by any party and is fantasy economics.
     
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  11. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I am not saying you are 100% stupid, you can make some great points and often,,


    But there is a part of you that is totally ignorant, so much so it’s impossible to discuss reality with you, or pretty much impossible, lol,

    You negotiate first and then sign the contract second when the negotiations are all agreed upon, if you don’t know that you must be essentially part child.
     
  12. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Like it or not Povetkin is rated #3 by just about anyone who doesn't have an agenda.

    He's active, he's proven and he hasn't lost in years.

    Ortiz is older than povetkin, unproven and has a recent loss.

    As for Fury he has no recent form to judge so back end of the top 10 is fine for him though he may climb up.
     
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  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Joshua said "LETS ROLL." Hearn said "We are very interested". What more do you want? Offer accepted. Then Hearn asked to discuss the deal with Finkel and he said "not until youve accepted it". He said he was interested, Joshua said lets roll. Finkel wanted more, what did Finkel want?

    Hearn and Joshua were accepting an offer of 50 million. Finkel wanted the "deal" to be accepted. Offer and deal are 2 different things. There was something very fishy in the way Finkel was conducting himself and Hearn was very cautious.
     
  14. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    That 50 mill deal stinks to the high heavens I tells you!!!!!!
     
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  15. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "When you've got a guy who is being involved to help raise funds to put a fight on, that automatically stops the fight from happening, do you really want to make the fight"?



    Klitschko?
    Povetkin?
    Whyte?
    Paker?
    Joshua?


    Only two of the five are promoted by Joshua.

    How is Hearn responsible for the other 3 being avoided by Team Wilder?