Wilder's bad sportsmanship

There is no point in being fake.

 

Where is video evidence of Fury going up to Wilder and trying to shake his hands?

 

I tend to think he's terribly misled and gullible moreso than malevolent in original nature; you allude to the assholes who've contributed to warping his worldview and transforming him from easy-going, truck-drivin' good ol' boy to delusional, paranoid, militant weirdo. But I fully agree that, whatever the cause may be, he went way off the deep end in the last few years and took this rivalry with Fury down a bleak, dark path.

After all, it's not where you start, it's where you end up. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that. Wilder's original nature may be lost for good and we may not yet have seen the extent of his descent into mental sickness.

 

One thing I give to both Fury and Wilder is that they didn't fight dirty despite the animosity.

They have a gladiator's mindset and they both followed the rules of the fight game. No low blows, headbutts or elbows.

They're nothing like Adam Kownacki and his intentional low blows.

 

This is true. Excuses are a dime a dozen, but losing honestly is very hard for anyone.. These guys train to win..

 

Wilder isn't keeping it real by telling himself that Fury did not legitimately earn victory over him. What would you call that? His position is a fake to begin with.


It's Deontay's prerogative to go that route, though. His life to figure out. It's our right to comment on it.

 

The sincerity of Wilder's effort was something. No nefarious intent whatsoever — people will wonder aloud if he juiced to 237, but, so far as the PED thing goes, we're all in glass houses as fans of fighters, something too few of us are big enough to acknowledge — and you had to have doubts as to whether that would be the case, given all that had been said beforehand.

 

It seemed more like this thread was about respecting Fury and being nice in the ring after the fight (handshake, the quote, etc).

Excuses for a performance is quite a different subject.

 

I don't agree with this, at all. Not one bit. Be a man shake the man's hand ffs.

 

But the excuses are where the refusal to shake the hand of Fury and say 'good fight' stems from. They were mutual admirers once. The nature of the excuses (allegations of nefariousness) has fuelled the extreme deterioration of their personal relationship. This is what I mean when I say his position is a fake to begin with. To climb down from that weird trip he's on and accept the L and shake the hand of Fury would represent authenticity in this case.


As I said, it's up to him. These are just observations.

 

They were best buddies when they agreed to fight the first time. Going into the second fight there was a lot of mutual respect. After Fury destroyed Wilder in the second fight, the hatred suddenly emerged. I believe this all started because Wilder thought Fury would be an easy name to get on his record and make good money in the process. Fury was not so shot like Wilder and his team initially believed.

 

Many boxers involved in rivalries hated each other long after they fought.

Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali were friends before they fought. Afterward, Frazier hated Ali essentially until the day he died.

Frazier said repeatedly, when they were both old, look at Ali (who couldn't speak) and look at me and tell me who really won our fights?

Ali didn't feel that way. Frazier did. Frazier's brother told him to let go of the hate. He never could.

Duran beat Leonard. Shoved Ray when he tried to congratulate him after the fight. And called Leonard's wife a *****.

After all the bad blood, name calling and beatings, Wilder hates Fury. Maybe he won't someday. He does now.

They stood in the ring and tried to kill each other last night. Sometimes, you can't just turn it off two minutes after the bell rings. Sometimes you still can't turn it off 30 years later.

Some heavyweights, like Joshua, find themselves in a rough fight with a late sub, spit out their mouthpiece, quit, grab the mic from the winner and thank James Corbin and all the celebs for coming out, like it was no big deal.

Some, like Kownacki last night, are losing to an old trialhorse and try to foul out.

Some, like Wilder, fight to his last breath against the best in the world and go down swinging.

If he doesn't feel like glad handing afterward, so what?

Wilder gives everything he's got.

Do they have to kiss and make up at the end so you guys feel better about watching two guys try to kill each other for ah hour?

If you want see that, put on Fury-Seferi.

You guys whining that he didn't suddenly flip a switch and turn it off the moment the fight was over come off sounding like people who don't know boxing history.

 

I'd venture that you haven't much interpretive nous and cannot see what has gone on here. This isn't a case of Wilder keeping it real over a justifiable grudge.

 

oh its boxing history we dont know?

its just sportsmanship is all it is and Wilder doesnt have it.

That goes for any sport.

It is what it is.

Wilder has trouble dealing with the reality that he is NOT a KING and not the best because he is strong on heart but weak on character.