Wilder's bad sportsmanship

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  1. alpo1

    alpo1 #TeamShanny Full Member

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    Things would have went differently if they didn't force him to remove the headphones
     
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  2. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    Eh? That statement doesn't even make any sense. Being man enough to sincerely admit and recant his foolishness would be putting on a show? Fight fans who think Wilder lost his marbles are keyboard warriors?

    Wilder owed it to himself and the sport and the truth as much as anyone or anything else.


    But you're another ABF guy (Anything But Fury), so it is what it is.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder's case? Did Leonard give Duran money only for Duran to call Leonard's wife a *****?

    My case is some guys hate their opponents and can't just turn it off.

    Some never stop hating them.

    Who cares? They are fighters. Not peacekeepers.
     
  4. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Active Member Full Member

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    Leonard and Duran did a commercial together not long after the fight and acted all buddy like to Leonard's bemusement. Saying both families got on really well.

    Hate? You know what hate means? Dislike sure but hate? You're having a shocker mate which is isn't all that surprising since it's concerning the big dosser.
     
  5. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

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    I still remember how Morales threw water on Barrera when Barrera tried to bury the hatchet after the cards were read in the third fight but now they seem really chummy, so things do change over the course of time but I don't think that'll ever happen for Wilder and Fury, the bridge is far too wide for that.
     
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  6. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    Well, you and Nonito Smoak are here discussing it with us and trying to convince us that nobody should be giving it consideration. You fellas seem to care that someone cares.

    It's being discussed because it's an interesting psychological wrinkle in the Fury-Wilder rivalry. There's more going on here than just a guy refusing to shake hands or exchange pleasantries on account of his personal boundaries being exceeded during a promotion or something.
     
  7. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did the right thing by not cuddling up to Fury, who has always been a complete ass to him outside of the ring.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If i dont like someone and theres years of bad blood im not going to congratulate that person for beating me in a game of chess. Thats just how i am.
     
  9. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    You wilfully miss the nuances, but that's fine. Do what thou wilt.
     
  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't have to like the opponents but it shows strength of character plus matureness that should emulated...
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    The sad thing for Wilder was his rep was enhanced for showing heart in the face of adversity and making it a war but he blotted his copy book per usual with a basket of sour grapes.
     
  12. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's hard to believe that Wilder came from a poor upbringing... Usually this type of behavior in people comes from rich spoiled, sheltered children... If he indeed had a poor upbringing, he would not act this way...
     
  13. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no problem if Wilder continues to hate Fury. That is his own business. However, in the ring most people expect combatants to adhere to the rules of combat during the fight. Almost every boxing fan I have ever known strongly dislikes it when a boxer fouls intentionally...head butts, low blows etc. Why? The rules appear to our sense of fairness and they set a standard by which said combat is to be followed. You beat the opponent or are beaten according to those guide lines.
    After the final bell there are no rules.Either combatant can choose to shake hands...no need to swap spit or exchange life stories or shed tears. It is understood and appreciated when one or both show sportsmanship and class. Most of us grow up doing that as we go through school and then out into life with the lessons whatever sport has given us. Example...Winston Churchill said that WW2 wasn't won in the far away lands in which England's sons fought but on the Rugby fields of England long before.
    Sports challenge us to dig deep and when we do we find something there that stays with us throughout our lives. OR...we don't find any thing there and it shows when the hard dark times come. Wilder appears ...not just because of last nights poor performance after the fight....to have learned little or nothing. He shows a complete lack of class and although he can fight hard he can not deal with defeat or things that do not go exactly his way. That is weakness. That is why so many of us find his behavior beyond distasteful. Last nights defeat is one that is going to stay with him for a long long time. I suspect if he had been man enough to show class the sting of defeat would lessen a lot quicker.
     
  14. UFC2020

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    Won't be surprised to see the two of them laughing, joking, partying together 5-10 years later. Anyone remembers the animosity bw Lennox and Vitali at the time? Now look at them. The things which Tyson said to Lewis, who would imagine they would be cool with each other now.

    Biggest example Holyfield Tyson. Now look at them at awards, events, joint interviews
     
  15. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So I actually hate classless displays. I actually hate braggadocio boxers in general. I've always loved the sportsman like boxers. However as a former athlete and someone who is big on psychology I'll say this, in basically any endeavour someone takes on, the people who visualize victory and success are the people who are most likely to succeed. It all comes down to the subconscious mind. The more you repeat a story, the more likely you are to believe it's true and make it happen. Boxers have to mentally prepare for war and believe they are the best to make it to the top. If you leave any room for doubt the next guy with great self belief is going to win. When boxers or someone isn't successful at what they are trying to accomplish it's a mind ****. That means they have to want to get back into the gym so they can train harder and better so they can beat their opponent in the rematch. I know that was true for me when I was a wrestler. I always came back better because in my heart I knew if I trained better and used a different strategy I'd beat the guy and many times did beat my foes in rematches. So with regards to acknowledging who is the better man I give boxers a pass. They have to stay hungry and believe they are truly the better fighter and just had an off night so they can come back more successful in the rematch. That said I'd prefer boxers stay classy after the fight.
     
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