Wilder's CV is shockingly bad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by True_Hero, Aug 11, 2013.


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  1. True_Hero

    True_Hero Guest

    To put it in perspective.

    Tyson Fury's 22nd pro fight will be against David Haye. Probably the 4th best heavyweight in the world.

    Deontay Wilder's 22nd pro fight was against Jesse Oltmanns. Who is he? Never heard of him.

    Gotta laugh at the dumb Americans who are so desperate to have a good heavyweight again that they're willing to pin their hopes on "Windmiller" Wilder who got knocked down by Dustin Nicholls and Harold Scornier :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  2. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad's 22nd pro fight was against a tomato can as well. He still turned out all right.
     
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  3. The Ape

    The Ape Member Full Member

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    And fury will be getting ktfo and be a laughing stock of boxing soon.

    Wilder wouldnt struggle will pajic etc..

    Wilder would have a better chance than fury.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is clearly not being matched with anyone with a pulse, because his handlers have seen he is not up to it...and would be brutally KTFO. They want to milk the cow to the maximum before cashing out.

    Tony Thompson or Eddie Chambers would both brutally knock him out.
     
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  5. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well we will find out in the next year about mr wilder, the showtime of this world, don't let tomato can opponents.
     
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  6. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, duh, his best win is over a 37 year-old Lyakovich who hadn't fought for 1,5 years and who was stopped in his 2 most recent fights. So far, we really don't know anything about Wilder yet except that he has the perfect physique to be a dominant HW and he has real KO power, which counts for something.
    How much it really counts for, we will find out when he faces a world class guy who can take his punch and keep firing back.
     
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  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    So what? Let them pin their hopes on someone. No need to ridicule them. Britain's hardly swimming in great fighters at the moment
     
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  8. True_Hero

    True_Hero Guest

    Froch, Burns, Haye, Fury, Cleverly, McDonnell, Murray, Barker, Groves and Brook all disagree ;)
     
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  9. True_Hero

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    Wlad didn't get dropped by tubs of lard like Harold Scorniers and Dustin Nicholls when he was fighting bums.
     
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  10. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    plenty of people go into there 20th or so win against cans.. i expect a world title shot by 25
     
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  11. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty weak definition of great I would say.
     
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  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad was knocked down by Steve Panell in 1998. Certainly no world beater compared to Harold Scorniers or Dustin Nicholls.
     
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  13. shu3737

    shu3737 Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury against Haye is actually a mistake on Fury's part in some respects, but makes sense in others.

    Fury has a chance to be a long-term champ, but he's taking Haye for great Brit domestic money because Haye is on the outs and a year from now, Fury's best domestic fight might be against Price or Chisora... that would kind of suck for him.

    So he's trying to catch Haye on the outs. BUT, even if he loses, I still have seen enough skills from him to think he can be a world-champ. His boxing is not based on athleticism, so it's not a big deal when he loses some of that from age.

    Wilder probably beats Fury right now, but Fury beats Wilder over the long run.

    With that said, and as others have shown, comparing who's fought who at what age is ridiculous.
     
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  14. True_Hero

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    Not really.

    Froch - A world champion. 2nd best Supermiddleweight in the world in a very strong division and I actually think in a rematch he would beat Ward.

    Burns - A world champion. Again, one of the best in the world in a strong division.

    Cleverly. A world champ, about to beat Kovalev and one of the few light-heavyweight boxers brave enough to step in with Kovalev.

    McDonnell. A world champ who utterly schooled Julio Ceja who was one of the biggest prospects in the Bantamweight division.

    Haye. One of the top 5 heavyweight boxers in the world and, before he left the division, was the BEST cruiserweight in the world.

    Fury. Again, one of the top heavyweights in the world.

    Groves - The best prospect in the super-middleweight division.

    Brook - Hasn't fought the best opposition yet but he's still a great boxer.

    Murray - Beat Martinez, the best middleweight in the world.

    Barker - Dominated the first 5 rounds against Martinez, about to beat Geale.
     
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  15. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just shut up, britan got lots of champions to be excited and proud off.
     
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