Wilder's last 3 v Povetkin's last 3

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Sure, if you evaluate the last two fights, Povetkin comes out on top. But usually people talk about Povetkin's last three fights, and its a legitimate reference point. And every fight has its own risks and rewards, there were plenty of people saying Wilder would find a way to back out against Stiverne (I was kind of one of them), so I see no reason a title fight isn't a valid refence point in looking at resume over a span of time.
     
  2. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stirverne, would have easily beaten Povetin.
     
  3. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Wilder is suposed to be the champion, then you can't compare him to challengers.

    Champions should fight challengers, not opponents of the challengers (if it isn't an other champion).
     
  4. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Klitschko
    Byrd
    Perez
    Wach
    Chambers
    Takam
    Charr
    Rahman
    Huck
    Chagaev
    Donald
    Boswell


    Stiverne and Scott.
     
  5. TheDog

    TheDog 60/40 I kick yo a$s Full Member

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    Great post TS.
    A lot of these fans boys really have a distorted view and are very emotional, like the poster I'm Quoting. These type of "posters" have such an extreme biasthere is no reasoning with them. I know they're not this extreme/ridiculous in real life.

    Wilder-Povetkin is a lot closer than so many think. I personally have gone back and forth on who I thought is going to win. The more I think about it though I really feel Wilder is going to UD or late TKO Povetkin. This is going to be a very tough task in the very intimidating Russia but Wilder has ALL the tools to bring home the victory.

    When you keep things objective you realize yeah Wilder has never fought anyone like Povetkin but it goes both ways. Also Wilder is faster, equal power if not more, taller, longer. Wilder is also showing very good stamina and he carries his power and speed with him into the later rounds.

    Povetkin has the edge in experience that's about it. No one truly knows who has the better chin so that argument is just not there. A lot of people on here are going to be shocked at Wilder's performance. Going to be similar to Garcia-Matthysse.

    60-40 Wilder
     
  6. boxinggenuis

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    Yeah, I've been saying this for a while. I think Wlad nailed it when he said it's a 50/50 fight although I pick Wilder to win.

    As far as their last three opponents:

    Duhaupas > Charr
    Stiverne > Perez
    Takam > Molina

    A common opponent: Nicolai Firtha, Wilder knocked him out in 4. He went the distance against Povetkin, although admittedly Povetkin is fighting much better in the last couple of years.

    But just looking at what each guy bring to the table I'm giving Wilder the edge. 6'7 vs 6'2, that's a HUGE difference in boxing. Wilder is more athletic and has greater power. Povetkin has his own advatanges, he is the more skilled boxer and the more experienced fighter. Here is the thing though, the longer the fight get delayed the more it favors Wilder. Wilder can and is improving his boxing skills. Povetkin isn't going to get any taller. Not to mention at 36, he would only be older. Wilder is 29, so age isn't going to be an issue for him for the next 5 or 6 years.

    It's a very close fight(for now at least, in a year or two it wouldn't be), but again I think Wilder win.
     
  7. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :hey

    Povetkin needs to shatter that iron chin of Wach!! :yep

    If he does... R.I.P. Wilder!! :dead

    :yep
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Explain why Stiverne is better than Takam (spoiler, he isn't)
    Why Duhaupas is better than Charr (spoiler, he isn't)
    And why Perez and Molina are equal (spoiler, they aren't)
     
  9. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Stiverne and Scott" = Bought and Dive!!

    A Golden Boy Production...

    Scripted WWE style!!

    :yep
     
  10. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. BASHar Asad

    BASHar Asad Active Member Full Member

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    How did everyone miss this gem?:lol::lol::lol:
     
  12. ThatLeftaMarc

    ThatLeftaMarc Beast From The East Full Member

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    OP is a re****.

    Stiverne was ill and a real life punching bag.. he literally done nothing.

    Povetkin's fighters weren't sick or ended up in the hospital after lmao
     
  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Spoiler, Duhaupas beat Charr moron, never said Perez and Molina were equal, and Stiverne has a better resume and more power than Takam.
     
  14. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wow, such stupidity is hard to fathom; being a re**** for giving well ****yzed, largely indisputable facts. As opposed to a moron like you giving absolutely no facts. Everyone has an excuse, or are you one of the fools who still think Haye would have beat Wlad if not for his pinky?
     
  15. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thanks, I actually suspect many of them are this ridiculous in real life, though. Notice the longer posters, with actual ****ysis to go along with their posts, recognize this is a fight that could go either way.

    And I'd call the fight 60/40 Povetkin chances.