Wilder's next two: Chisora for IBF #1 & Usyk in '26

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The IBF mandatory obligation is being met in July, when Usyk fights Dubois.

    Usyk already fought Chisora, as well, and there's no push to see a return.

    If Usyk plans on keeping the belts, he has to make his WBA, WBO and WBC mandatory defenses before coming back around for an IBF mandatory. I doubt he'll do that. He's already shown he's willing to dump a belt if there's another fight he'd rather take.

    If Usyk does fight all his mandatories, and since Usyk fights once a year, the next IBF mandatory will probably roll around in 2029 or 2030.

    Unless Chisora plans to sit on his spot like Fres Oquendo for half a decade, he isn't fighting Usyk again. If Dubois wins in July, maybe Dubois fights Chisora. But, I doubt it.

    Long story short, Chisora's going to need to look elsewhere for a money fight to close out his career.
     
  2. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You either don't get it or don't want to. That was only one of many, many negotiations between the pair over a period of years and years.
     
  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was the LARGEST public negotiation. And Deontay avoided the fight - self-admittedly.

    And Ellerbe praised him lmfao
     
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  4. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They negotiated year after year after year. Did you sleep through all that?
     
  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is, Wilder's PBC contract was UP and he had complete control for the fight to happen and he folded. He chose LESS money for LESSER opponents and somehow he sold his fanbase that was "betting on himself."

    Wilder was a fraud and can destroyer like Popeye. When he stepped up HE LOST. Fury x 3, Parker, Zhang, etc. Garbage fighter who was better suited for WWE.
     
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  6. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The negotiations went on for years and years, and none of us know the full extent of what was said and who wanted the fight at different times and who didn't.

    We do know early days that Eddie Hearn sounded keen to approach Wilder to make the fight, only for Hearn's father Barry to tell him 'let it marinate' - this discussion was made quite public - and Eddie then ceased to be interested in making the fight for a couple of years.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Does he even hold a ranking by any organization? If so, I'm calling the police.
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    In his prime, almost certainly but now..... I'm not even sure he could spark me.
     
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  9. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Years ago the Wilder Chisora fight would probably look like Wilder Stiverne I, though Chisora wouldn't survive 12 like Stiverne luckily did after being badly hurt.
    Chisora coming forward like he does would have him almost certainly walk into a huge RH like many others have.
    These days who knows, but it would be funny if Wilder KO'd him just for the narrative shifts and all the English with their creepy Chisora fetish.
    Wilder getting KO'd is also a decent outcome.
    Neither getting KO'd I'd have to ask what the point is.

    I think a more interesting fight now would be Wilder v Dave Allen due to Wilder's decline. If Allen could somehow win that he would on paper (at a glance) match Fury's second best win which would be hilarious.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    If he knocks out Chisora? Yes.
     
  11. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At this stage of Wilder's career. Chisora would render him unconscious in 2-3 rounds. Plenty of other HW's would have a field day with him.

    Its not a case of a plan for Wilder.

    Its more of a case of who gets to him first.

    As whoever does, with any type of ability, is going to absolutely obliterate him.
     
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  12. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Many negotiations" where most of them consisted of AJ's camp sending Wilder fight offers and he declining them.
     
  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Complete guesswork on your part. The details were never made public.

    Eddie Hearn said.....LOL!
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you're saying Wilder was sending secret offers to AJ and never talked about it? That's almost Wilder's level of delusion, lol.
     
  15. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm saying nothing of the sort. It's you doing the guesswork.