Wilders record vs current top ten.

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. mono

    mono Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t know what Deonkeys ranking is, but Ortiz WAS in the top 10 at the time of their fight. Stupid analysis.

    edit- Reread your post and yes, I have no problem with it. His ranking is based on what he can do and has shown to do. Knock almost everyone out.
     
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  3. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Well using your own logic how many top 10 wins does the no 1 on the list have?
    3 with 2 over the same fighter
    The no 2 has only 2 both ocer the same fighter
    Not such a big difference.

    But again I used WWE logic here.
     
  4. Robney

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    With this line of "thinking" imagine this scenario:
    Helenius knocks out Wilder, after which Wilder retires. Then Helenius pulls the upset of a lifetime and does the same with Fury, who also retires for the 17th time in a then 34 fight career.
    Does that then mean because Helenius has 0 wins over any active top 10 fighter, he can't be rated near the top?!
     
  5. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    lol at Jared Anderson at #10. He's done absolutely nothing so far.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury have 4, Wallin, 2x Wilder and Whyte.
    AJ had 3 over Parker, Ruiz and Whyte

    But the fun part is Bionce has face just 1 name in that top 10 list, and that one name is Fury.

    Fury has faced Wallin Wilder and Whyte.
    AJ has faced Parker, Ruiz, Whyte and Usyk.

    But how is Wilder in front of AJ, when he doesn't have a single win over any of the current top 10 is still a mystery. But even more mystery is the fraud hasn't face anyone else than Tyson Fury on that list.

    But that list is horse s**** anyway, as Jared Anderson, Wallin and Whyte currently has no business in it.
    Whyte was top 5 HW, before Povetkin spark him, and we then have Fury spark him, so how is he still top 5 is another mystery.
     
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  7. SmackDaBum

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    He has a better record than Hrgovic?
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ortiz hasn’t actually done anything worthy of demoting him from the top ten. ESPN doesn’t do business with him so they probably have bias.

    Also OP rides the short bus and has Velcro on his shoes.
     
  9. fencik45

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    Wallin being in the top ten shows what a joke it is. If Wilder were champ, whoever he fought would miraculously appear in the top ten before the fight. In other words, rankings are propaganda and also are for sale. The examples boggle the mind.
     
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  10. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Ortiz hasn’t actually done anything worthy" Story of his career zero big wins made a living off of journeyman even had an opponent take a dive. dude never even belonged in the top ten especially after 2019.

    Also your mom should of spit you out in the alley you were created.
     
  11. lepinthehood

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    jesus christ man, have a word with yourself.
     
  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Anderson top 10 how?

    his best wins teslenko and rovcanin.

    Hrgovic has Zhang who destroys the two above, Old and shot but known names Booker, Molina, Mansour, Johnson capable of beating the guys on Andersons resume.

    Otto Wallin has a good win over Breazeale but not a very good resume otherwise.

    then you have Michael Hunter, Bakole, Helenius, Sanchez who are hovering top 15, who have better resumes than Anderson. Anderson is top 20-35 like the other prospects coming through.
    some of the old guard have dropped down like pulev, chisora, takam some of the other prospects have loses early on like Agaba and Yoka.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Dominated Jennings when he was top 5. Only guy to dominate Scott the cards. First guy to give Wilder a big scare and did it twice while old. Beat Martin and barely lost to Ruiz while ancient.

    Def was a class higher than guys like Whyte and Parker.

    Velcro, bro.
     
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    He's 'murican
     
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