Wilder's resume is not THAT bad. Wilder is also a great fighter.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TJ Max, Jun 24, 2017.


  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have never heard me brag about Wilder in your 101 posts alt, lmao. So you're not an alt. I have never promoted Wilder as being the best heavy. None of them are the best heavy until they all fight each other and unify the division becoming the lineal champion. My thing is why won't Joshua fight Wilder? He fought Brazeale and Martin. Joshua isn't a champion and neither is Wilder. Why are so many Brit's scared to see this fight? Why are they all suffering from the Floyd Mayweather Jr Syndrome alt? Why alt, why? Lol...
     
  2. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua has a rematch to fight followed by a mandatory or 2 (Pulev and Ortiz) whilst Wilder gets permission to fight bum after bum...

    I'm not scared to see the fight as I think he makes short work of Wilder...
     
  3. Bax183

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    Here's the thing, I agree on some points on here. We won't and don't know who the best heavyweight is. No one on here can say they 100% they know for sure and until the top 4 (Wilder, AJ, Ortiz and Parker) face each other, that isn't going to change.

    Why do you think that Brit's don't want the AJ/Wilder fight? I want to see it and I've not heard anybody say they don't want to see it.

    And to your question about why will AJ fight Martin and Breazeale and not Wilder? AJ fought Martin in his 16th fight to win the IBF belt. Before that fight Wilder, with already being WBC champion, wouldn't of been interested in giving AJ a shot. Then the Breazeale fight (17th), Molina (18th), then Wlad 19th. He's now waiting on Wlad's decision, if not it's Pulev mandatory. Remember he's on his 20th fight next. He is progressing all the time. In the mean time, Wilder is on fight 39 next. He's got a BS mandatory coming up that no fan has any massive amount of interest in, and, basically, his career is not progressing. That's what winds me up about him. I want to see Wilder in with the best, so we know who is the best, but we're not likely to find out. I want him to fight Whyte. I think Wilder will stop Whyte. I've already said that on another post today. I want him to take the Whyte fight so he can get the shot at AJ - The fight we all want to see.
     
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  4. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top four without Wlad and Povetkin? But Parker and Ortiz?
     
  5. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is flawed but is also dangerous. has the one shot power that ends fights.his stamina is also good .if he can improve his defense and foot work which breland seems to be working on he will be formidable.
     
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  6. Bax183

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    Wlad will retire if he doesn't take the rematch and Povetkin is a drugs cheat.
     
  7. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Formidable lol.... Good one.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    How bad do you want to see it? Yall keep saying that Wilder should take the offer Whyte and Hearn gave him as if they run things. They don't run a damn thing in boxing.
    Shot at AJ? Lol. AJ is NOT the champion of the division. Don't confuse draw in the U.K. with hvw champion. I don't care how many fights either of them have had. Both are titlists and should give the fans what they want. Nobody want's to see Stiverne or Pulev fight them. Sooner or later the fans will demand the fight and AJ will have to fight him.
     
  9. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't skip mandatories if you want to keep your belts...

    No they don't run things but they have the money and Wilder flat out ducked his biggest payday.

    AJ is THE draw in HW boxing so yes people are queueing up for their shot at him.

    When AJ and Wilder meet it will be a quick one sided beat down and Deontay will never be heard from again...
     
  10. Dfaulds

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    Wilder is a bum I agree but the only things Fury plays with are the toys from his Happy Meals...
     
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  11. sean

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    how much does wilder want eddie hearn to pay him to fight joshua and what kind of split would he agree terms too if he was to receive an offer ?

    hypothetical i know.
     
  12. Dfaulds

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    In terms of how much money he brings to the table he deserves a lot less of a percentage than GGG got from Canelo... But Hearn would likely offer him a better one to get a hold of the belt.
     
  13. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    you could also turn it on its head
    team wilder want joshua
    why does team wilder not make joshua a huge offer he is tempted by say $12 million

    team povetkin offered wlad $20 million to tempt him to russia.
    i am playing devils advocate team wilder have already shown what worth they place on wilder when they bid on the povetkin fight.

    £4 million uk is about as much as they will ever find at this moment in time which is less than martin got to fight joshua and not much difference in what hearn has offered wilder to face whyte.
     
  14. Bax183

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    Whichever way you look at it, it is a shot at AJ. Boxing is a business and he's where the money is. That is a fact. That's why fighters want AJ. It's nothing to do with anything else other than money. Wilder's no different.

    I hope you're right that sooner or later the fans will demand it, cos I've got a feeling none of us are ever going to see it.
     
  15. Bax183

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    The shape Fury is in at the min, he couldn't even play with himself lol.

    Wilder and AJ will both stop TF now. It's going to be hard for him to get back now imo and be the fighter he once was. I hope he does, just can't see it happening.