Wilder's resume

Live to fight another day combined with a tactical mentality versus a deluded fighter with idiot stength

 

Short notice makes your chin suck? Got it. Duhaupas managed to smoke Helenius after Wilder and before Povetkin so it's not like he was washed up.

Thanks for confirming that Wilder avoided a 36 year old boxer

Oh fine very well, Wilder lost to Fury because of a global conspiracy that involved his own coach, a costume that was too heavy, spiked water, the crooked referee, Fury himself that wore gloves that had no padding AND a metal object inside and Wilder's soft skull that treacherously caved in on him. Did I miss any excuses? Just add them to the list, we can tick them off too. Never did the CIA organize a better plot than the web of deceit that was spun to take down Deontay

 

Wilder’s resume is garbage. He turns 36 in a month too. Long past the point of putting together a lasting run.
For that matter Fury is wasting his career too. He does have Wlad and the dominant win over Wilder himself, but outside that he’s wasting it too.

 

I hope wilder loses cse i really want to see what his rediculous fanatical fans say

 

NEETzschean clearly has an agenda to defend Wilder and make him out to be this elite, feared monster so that it makes Fury's win over him ATG quality

We had a little debate in our conversation thread(LOL) I've already caught on to it

The funny thing is that NEETzschean doesn't care about Wilder and despises his LDBC fans but he'll do whatever it takes to make Fury's resume look better than it actually is.

 

I particularly like how you have all these triangle theories to rank performances which prove who is better than who, except when the same theories proves someone is better than Wilder and then it’s just brushed off as “styles make fights”

 

Wach went went the distance with Wlad, that doesn't make him better than top fighters like Whyte and Parker or even high Euro level like Chisora. Just because a fighter fights negative and comes to survive doesn't necessary make quality fighter.

Again Jennings didn't deserve the win against Perez through a dodgy point deduction. Perez who the majority of people considered he should of lost the fight to Takam but bad judging.

So effectively your rating a guy who's best wins are Rudenko and Spzilka over people who have quality resumes in Whyte and Parker. Even Chisora resume is much better than Jennings let alone them two.

Ortiz most and only semi notable win is against a guy whose most notable wins are Rudenko and Spzilka (who Chisora KOed in a round) over

Whyte - wins over Povetkin, Parker, Chisora x 2, Helenius and Wach are better wins than Rudenko and Spzilka. Best resume in divison after AJ.

Parker- Wins over Ruiz, Chisora, Takam, Hughie, Fa and Rudenko. A top 5 resume in the divison -better resume than Wilder let alone Ortiz.

Chisora - Wins over Takam, Spzilka , Price and robbed a win over Helenius - is Weakest of 3 resumes and it's even better than Ortiz resume let alone Jennings.

 

Wilder was not 'easily winning every round'. The first round alone he was struggling to get any of his shots through and took a number of shots in return. Many of the rounds were like that, Wilder constantly getting busted up by Duhaupas's step in jab and clubbing body shots and struggling to really make his power count against Duhaupas's tucked in high guard and minimal head movement. The fact his eye was swollen so badly by the end tells much of the story since that wasn't a fluke injury but a result of cumulative punishment to that region of his face.

He got the win, kudos to him, but if you want to maintain that Wilder didn't struggle with Duhaupas then neither did Parker struggle with Takam or Whyte struggle with Chisora 2. That's taking a consistent line.

I don't quite get the point of this statement. Are you stating Duhaupas was a better fighter than Ruiz at the time Wilder fought him, or that he was a better fighter than Ruiz prior to Ruiz's win over Joshua? Or something else?

 

The French Dave Allen that is Duhaupas left Wilder's face a mess.

Would that happen to AJ, Fury, Whyte, Hunter, Ruiz, Parker, Pulev? Of course not.

 

The fact Wlad didn't KO Jennings was down to a couple of things. Firstly, Wlad was getting on and noticeably losing sharpness and timing on his shots. Secondly, Jennings fought with a high guard throughout that Wlad found difficulty penetrating with his by-then quite limited punch selection (basically lots of straight punches at mid to long range). Finally, the fact the fight was in America and the ref began threatening to penalise Wlad for clinching early threw him off his game.

This last was the main reason I think Wlad underperformed. When you're used to fighting a certain way, suddenly being told you can't any more can totally mess with your gameplan. You could see numerous times Wlad was instinctively going to clinch then forcing himself to hold off and punch instead. He ended up expending way more energy than he normally would have and lost his rhythm to boot. Had the fight been held in Germany Jennings would have been clinched to death after every exchange then probably put to sleep with a right hand after his back and legs had been worn out. Not saying that's right, but that's how it is, and I can't see Jennings lasting the distance under those conditions.

It's a shame in a way that Jennings's only really noteworthy performances in his career were losing ones, since like Takam he rarely gave anyone an easy night's work. But as it stands his claim to fame remains lasting the distance against a faded Wlad, which isn't really going to put him above the likes of even shopworn versions of better proven names as an opponent on your win column, especially when that's your only good win.

 

Fury himself admits Wilder is a big dosser so that ship has sailed ...

 

Made a change from Wilders team running away from AJ fights offers.

 

John Fury said anyone worth their salt would of beaten the out of shape Fury in their first fight.

 

And he's right. I thought Wilder would win tbh because Fury looked like a sack of jelly