Wilder's Right Hand?

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  1. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They say that power is the last thing to leave a fighter, well, if that's the case, I think it left Wilder a long time ago.

    Surely I'm not the only one that thinks he just hasn't got that devastating power anymore?
     
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  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Some other posters on here had a good take on this; Wilder’s power came from his fast twitch muscle fibers and explosiveness, which are among the first things to go.
     
  3. Berbasloth9

    Berbasloth9 New Member Full Member

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    Wilder has been lied to all his career, he has never been a good boxer but that bomb put boxers out for fun promoters fooled him and tried fool the public. When he was found out and when he had to try be a boxer he was found out
     
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  4. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    his right hand only has power when he has enough space to double hop like Bald Bull. Chisora kept on getting too close the entire fight
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    They said the same about Tyson. But I guess Tyson was just really heavy handed without the speed because his power never left him. Like in the Botha fight. He was awful but the power bailed him out.
     
  6. TipNom

    TipNom Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He can still crack when he lands well, but he doesn't have that touch of death power he used to. His power in large part came from his explosive speed, technique (the cross was the only shot he could throw correctly) and the distance he crossed while throwing it.

    But as he's gotten older he's lost much of his speed and athleticism, he's fighting better competition that does not give him space to load up and cross distance with his right, and another element that I think is at play is that Wilder has totally bought into his own hype.

    Glazing from fans and KOs like in the Helenius fight have convinced him that he doesn't need to throw his right hand with good technique or proper setups for it to be as devastating as it was. He now just tosses it out, sometimes even slapping with it, and expects it to have the same effect.
     
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  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    That and or, he isn't fully committed to his shot. Remember, a young Wilder would alway commit and fall off balance or into his opponent when he let his right go. I haven't noticed that his last few fights.
     
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  8. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I’ve posted this many times and again on the British RBR thread: “power is the last to go” is just a myth.

    It defies biomechanical logic to say otherwise since power is the result of athleticism through rotational force alongside physical factors like bone density.
     
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  9. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    There are numerous fighters whose power was based on speed and explosiveness and once it was lost the power has gone too.

    David Haye, Herbie Hide, Shane Mosley, Roy Jones to name a few. Same with Wilder.
     
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    People think what made Wilder a standout fighter was his pure power. But for the most part, his power was generally an emergent product of his gauging ability and his explosiveness, which allowed him to execute on the openings he had once he gauged his opponents properly, and allowed to have the velocity on the punch to make it a fight changing weapon when it did land.

    Now people are wondering what happened to his power... his explosiveness is all but gone, and without it, he cant execute on the openings enough to catch opponents with the type of shots that change fights, and when he does land, it doesnt have the velocity that made it dangerous in the first place.
    And so without it, he loses what it is that made him genuinely dangerous to anybody.
     
  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson’s much better form and getting his whole body behind his shots kept him more dangerous in my opinion
     
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  12. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Someone should do a PHD on this topic. It would be good to see some in depth data analysis analysing data from punchers in all weight classes to see what the trends are in punching power as they get on in years.

    Problem is you will have some outliers who gain or even lose KO power as they advance through the weight classes and of course fighters who may be doping.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    That's more when it muscle mass power than hand speed/fast twitch. And Wilder has had injuries.
     
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  14. DubbleJab

    DubbleJab Member Full Member

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    Did he ever really have it?

    I'm not buying it.

    In his prime Stiverne took him 12 rounds, Molina took him 9, Duhaupas 11, Szpilka 9, Arreola 8....That doesn't scream "Hard hitting HW" to me.

    He used his athleticism and speed to knock out immobile older men, who were not top level athletes let alone boxers. The likes of Wlad and Lewis generate significantly more power in EVERY possible thrown punch than what Wilder generates. I think Usyk is a heavier puncher btw.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Similar to Ingemar Johansson. When he lost the timing, the right was not longer so lethal.
     
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