Wilder's strategy and why Hearn/AJ were avoiding him

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LMFAO @ using fighters that Wilder has never faced himself, that Joshua lost to, to denigrate Joshua and to uplift Wilder. Wilder doesn't deserve any credit for Usyk or Ruiz Jr beating Joshua, when Wilder has never faced either of those two guys himself.

    And if we are going by level of opposition, only a dishonest agenda-driven individual will cherry-pick a small period when one guy may have been facing better competition. A true objective and honest individual would look at the entirety of the careers and then find out who has fought the better level of competition as a WHOLE.

    Nobody gives a rat's ass if Wilder as been facing better level of competition for a period of 6 months, or 12 months, or 3 years or any other period since as a whole, Joshua totally blows him out the water in this department.

    If we go by the best wins OFFICIALLY on PAPER, Joshua's best wins aren't Parker or Whyte, but Wladimir Klitschko and Alexander Povetkin. Whereas Wilder's best wins OFFICIALLY on PAPER are Luis Ortiz and Bermane Stiverne. And guess what genius? Both Wladimir Klitschko and Alexander Povetkin are FACTUALLY superior wins as they are more accomplished with greater resume than Ortiz or Stiverne. Yes, they have been old and washed up by the time they fought Joshua, but so were Ortiz and Stiverne (in the second bout). And prime Stiverne was no better than the Whyte that Joshua fought, given that Whyte was unbeaten before he faced Joshua and Stiverne had already been KO'ed by a bum before he faced Wilder for their first bout.
     
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  2. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    End of day AJ has beaten at least six with more impressive resumes in Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev than Wilder has ever beaten.

    Wilder turned 4 or more offer of which at the time over double his career high purse to instead fight poor opposition.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    NEETzschean, with all due respect but with such post you became the rightfully joke on this forum, and no one will take you seriously.

    It's obvious from the high heaven how biased you are in every single post. Every single post is bias and with something in minds towards Wilder.
    Even if the thread is about something completely different, you still find a way to lick his ****.

    Just get real for god sake. I got no problem with someone being a real fan and staying and defending his fighter, but you are an absolutely delusional.

    Ortiz and his management openly admitted that they ducked AJ big time, when Ortiz by himself previously have said that he will fight AJ any time, anywhere.
    Wilder with his stupidity openly admitted that he ducked AJ.

    You are talking about 70-30 offers and nonsenses, but even if this was true, 30% would still be combined the most he has ever earned to date.
    And everyone knows about the DAZN 100mln. offer and that idi***** rejected it.

    And everyone knows that Wilder numbers are fabricated. He was fighting for nuts, his highest earn was like what 1-2mln. for Ortiz.
    And then magically he start earning 10+mln. i don't buy that crap.

    And don't dare to quote me with 5 miles long post i won't read you, and will send you in the ignore list.
    Tired of guys who are full of *****.
    You can be a fan, support your fighter and not be blindly biased fanboy.

    P.P. And Joshua and Hearn maybe anything, but at least the guy was chasing a legacy, and always try to make the big fight, which you cannot say for Wilder.
    It's not just the name, but the time when you face them. And when AJ was challenge or have his mandatory set, he fight them straight away, and he always pushed to Unify, something Wilder never does.
     
  4. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “Wilders strategy”

    A guy whose own manager said was a baby and not ready to unify despite also being world champion.

    That tells you everything about his “strategy”
     
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  5. Geo1122

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    Seemingly genuine offers from team Joshua were streaming in over a 2/3 year period. Each time improving as Wilder’s profile grew. The final nail in this debate came when Wilder admitted turning down the 100 million offer.

    Wilder, on the surface, has always been about improving his profile with little risk. It backfired when he climbed in the ring with what he thought (in my opinion) was a shot Fury.

    In the second fight one thing was certain; Fury was going to fight conservatively and elusively, on the back foot. Wilder knew he just had to be patient. And the rest is history.

    Now that Wilder has had his reality check I think we may actually see some interesting fights from him.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Its simple we all saw what Ruiz did to him Joshua would of had his british glass jas shattered and they know it Joshua ducked the man seevrl times biggest fraud in the hw division
     
  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    That glass chin you mentioned? :qmeparto:

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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Please show examples of these several times?
     
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    AJ, Fury and Wilder would not have fought one another without the circumstances that occurred

    Fury lulled Wilder in and ate his bacon

    Meanwhile AJ has entered the get slapped about by any dog with fight in him territory. Will be begging for a Fury fight soon.

    The cream rises to the top

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  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You might want to learn to read the room. The op has been dismantled by multiple people on this thread including myself.

    So please stop eating your crayons and learn something.




    Thanks
     
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  11. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Unfortunately, the Lions Den Boxing Community is made up of room temperature IQ individuals. Reading the room will prove difficult, as reading itself is quite a feat.
     
  12. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it was the start of the thread I could understand.

    To go through several pages of the op being beaten like a red headed step child is just odd.

    I'm sure the people in these threads just crave attention even if it's negative.

    It's like they didn't get enough time on there mothers teet when they were young.
     
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  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Really the 50 mil for one that he asked for

    the two fight deal for 0 mil on UK soil where he would get the lions share that Warren exposed

    then when Wilder reached out to him personally he ran behind Eddie's skirt

    Wilder and Fury fought a trilogy its not that hard to make fights unless you really don't want it
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hope you did not quote Frank (O'l fish eyes) Warren as evidence?

    Log off. Please.

    Oh and Wilder only took the Fury fight because he thought it was an easy nights work only to be clowned in the first fight and beaten like a child in the 2nd and 3rd fight. Your man wanted no part of Joshua and that is just a fact.




    Thanks.
     
  15. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    You only need to compare the fighters resumes and their promoters history to see who avoided who.
     
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