Wilder's team deserves a huge credit

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean his trainer Mark Breland and assistant trainer/co-manager Jay Deas.

    1. People are criticizing Wilder's skills (and rightfully so), but I don't think any trainer in history would make him much better. Some great boxing minds like Eddie Futch or Emanuel Steward would probably make him slightly better fighter than he is now, but nobody in history would improve his skills to Bowe's, Lewis' or Wlad's level. Wilder just doesn't have enough amateur pedigree and boxing IQ. So, instead of trying to make him a "second coming of Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko", they have choosen another path - try to make him the best he can be at the things he does well. And it works well so far.

    2. Instead of rushing him into big-money Klitschko fight in 2013-2015, where he would very likely got knocked out and got his confidence derstroyed, Wilder's team has choosen another direction - give him more experience by matching him against better opponents than he had before. Yes, guys like Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Washington and shot Arreola is an awful list of defences for a title holder, but it was actually a huge step up from the guys like Jason Gavern, Matt Greer, Kertson Manswell, Damon McCreary etc. Wilder has learned something from those fights, he had to deal with some tought situations - he was hurt twice by Molina, his eye was swolled badly against Duhaupas, he was outboxed by Szpilka and had to find the way to take him out which he did, he had to deal with a torn biceps in the fight against Arreola. You can laugh as much as you want about his opponents in those title fights, but they still gave him a lot of experience that he needed.

    3. Wilder is very impulsive person, but his thrainers keep him cool-headed during the fights. He might swing wlldly against some opponents, but would never do that against the guys like Ortiz. Wilder never let his hands go in both Ortiz fights the way he did against Washington - with ridiculously wild and inaccurate swings. Because he knew Ortiz, even when he is hurt, might catch him with a counter punch and knock him out. And considering that Wilder is so emotional, so impulsive outside of the ring that he couldn't even resist to fight mentally ill person who offended him (Charlie Zelenoff), being so cool-headed inside the ring when needed - I think huge credit for this should go to his trainers.
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    They're getting a lot of credits. Most of them are paid a percentage of Wilder's purse, so that's quite a bit after this fight.
     
  3. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    The bomb squad deserves the biggest credit.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Yes. The two guys of this era who are moving the goalposts are Wilder and Canelo.

    Price and Chavez Jr. didn’t quite pan out the same.
     
  5. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moving the goalposts I call it Cherry Picked but I get it makes Breland & Co Money.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’re also a pathetic hater.
     
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  7. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder could of had much more respect from me if he'd have faced who he should have.
    Cos of this I don't like Wilder he does have a very hard right that's the best thing I can say on Wilder.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’re probably a Fury fanboy.
     
  9. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like boxers who face who thay should & I don't care what Country their from,I like boxers who give the fans what thay want.

    BTW Wilder most of the time does not.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Like I though, a fanboy. Fury hasn’t even fought a top ten contender yet.


     
  11. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok pick @ my posts if you wish but tell me this why did Wilder never face Wlad ??? you can not say that about Fury.
    In your Words just the same,your a Wilder fanboy in my eyes so what comes around goes around.
    Come back & post when Wilder mans up.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wilder was intentionally moved slowly because he picked up boxing at around age 20.

    He's been fighting top guys or mandatories exclusively for the last two years so you don't have a foot to stand on anymore. If Wlad were around, that fight would be made. Instead, we're left with Fury delaying a rematch due to being scared out of his wits and Joshua being so deep up ****'s creek that a Wilder fight isn't even a subject to discuss right now.