Wilder's toughest fight of his career. A fat 38 year old Cuban who's never fought for a world title.

All jokes aside this is a good fight and far more competitive than Joshua/Parker. Maybe we'll get a close fight or maybe one of these relatively untested fighters will get exposed badly.

 

Not sure if it's 'far more competitive' than Josh/Parks. There's a lot of unknown quantities surrounding both fights.

 

Ortiz's lack of title shot isn't down to him not being good. His performances against Thompson and Jennings were impressive. 38 also isn't ancient for a Heavyweight either. He's unbeaten, hasn't lost a round since...well a long time and is - at worst - a threat in this fight.

 

Whilst Wilder's reign so far has been lame to say the least, this fight is a good one. Ortiz may not be what he was 2-3 years ago but he's still a top 5 fighter in the division, imo.
Hopefully nobody gets injured or tests positive for anything, I think this fight is pretty evenly matched.

 

thompson and jennings!

this 38 year is good because he did well against a 48 year old!

this 38 year old is good because he beat someone who didnt start until he was nearly 30!

come on!

 

In the current state of the HW division, they are solid wins. Also Jennings started to box when he was 24, which is not "nearly 30" and I think Thompson was 44 when they fought. Stop being hyperbolic.

I think Ortiz is good because he has good attributes. He's a strong, powerful southpaw and like to counter. That makes him an awkward fighter and for someone who lacks real boxing ability like Wilder, a dangerous person to face.

 

stop readnig it wrong and you wont see hyperbole. tony thompson started at nearly 30. if you read whats there, and try to process it before you reply, you wont make that mistake again. thanks.
admittedly TT was 44, but in boxing terms both 44 and 48 are SHYTSHOT regardless. BOTH are just as bad, and their is no redeeming trying to claim that a fight against a 44 year or 48 year is "good"

hes a 38 year old man, and jersey joe walcott he aint.

 

wilder should win. ortiz will be off the meds. and hes older even if 39 is his real age thats old. and ppl believe hes older. wilder might hurt this guy.

 

Thompson made his pro debut at 28, I don't know how long he'd been boxing prior to that but it's safe to assume it wasn't in the same year, I think. Regardless of how 'shot' he may have been, stopping Thompson and dominating him like that is still respectable. He's difficult to land clean on.
And like I said, Jennings is also still a decent win.

No, he isn't Walcott but Wilder is no Louis. In this current Heavyweight division, Ortiz would be considered a good win.

 

yeh that is nearly 30, stop arguing about a point you lost.

 

no its a shyte win regardless. people dont get a free pass for earning a good win just becos they are a crap world champion. If you are a world champion, you gotta walk the walk.

i cannot believe that you let these people walk all over AND still defend them

 

You said he started boxing nearly 30, I said he turned pro at 28 and wouldn't have started boxing that same year, so no, not really.

Ortiz is a solid fighter. He has good fundamentals and concussive power. What faults do you see in him beyond the fact he's 38? He's hardly lost a round in years. It's possible to recognise this as a good win in relative terms and also accept that the current HW crop is poor. They aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

 

28/29 regardless is nearly 30 so shhh stop being sore loser

perhaps he was at 28. Hes 38. Virtually no 38 year old is solid, they are a calculated cheap win, cos if you cant outbox them, you hole up until round 5 and the bomb the gassed old man out..

 

Right, but you said started boxing at 28. Not turned pro. If you can show me he literally started boxing at 28 then fair enough you're right but all I can see is turned pro, which is different.

Well, he went the distance with Scott in Nov 2016 perfectly fine. He didn't look gassed against Allen after 7 at all either. Granted, these aren't good fighters but still, until I've seen him gas after 5 rounds what you're saying is conjecture. Wlad didn't have gas tank problems at 38. Povetkin's tank seems fine too. Omar Narvaez seems in perfectly good shape as well. That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are others.