Wilder's win over Ortiz proves old-school heavies have real KO power

Wilder is a throwback. Y'all're sleeping on them Marciano techniques.

Who else was consistently outboxed before landing the KO? Who else worked the line of sight every moment of their fights? How else works posture and position as much? Wilder being tall and Marciano being short makes a difference in the physics they take up, but the theory is the same.

Bait activity, study the opponent's attack, take up dangerous position that forces the other side to either leave ground, initiate, or stand there and be the world's easiest target. Offer dangerous posture from said dangerous position to further entice initiation because studying the attack is primary. Patience is key and when you have your man figured drop the bomb.

What Marciano did to Walcott has been studied to death. Learn from it. Tell me Artur wasn't KO'd doing something that had been successful throughout the fight giving him reason to believe he was safe to do it. Tell me Gerald made a change in his fight that allowed Wilder to take over. Claim Ortiz was doing something he hadn't been previously that handed Wilder his opening. None of that **** ever happened because Deontay Wilder finds a way to get that hand to it's spot just like The Rock used to.

Finally, even his record reflects being a throwback. In the HW division what champion after Patterson had more KOs than TKOs? Wilder alone.

 

Wilder has powe for the same reason a 147 lb Thomas Hearns has power. He's an exception and his power is overstated anyway. You could have easily of made this thread years ago when Briedis knocked out Charr as well. It wouldn't make it anymore true.

 

It's not just weight vs weight. Also look at their BF%. 214.75 pounds Wilder was way more ripped than 214 pounds Ali.

Prime Ali at 201 pounds looked a lot closer to the Wilder from this Saturday in terms of BF%.

 

Despite Wilder's not having a good jab. He got outjabbed by a shorter guy with a 7''(!) inch reach disadvantage for Christ sake... Despite also having an athletic advantage over him...

Can you help me explain this formula: Height+Reach+Speed = getting out jabbed?

 

Foreman's reach were 78.5 inches.

 

It does seem that weight matters a lot less for heavyweights than it does in the lower weight classes, where it can be a big deal for a guy to move up 5 pounds to a bigger weight class.

 

Against Ortiz? Meeting a southpaw takes a lot of your jab away, but he still used his long arm to paw at Ortiz - keep him at reach and blind him for the incoming right. He didn't need to jab with Ortiz, he just needed to paw with that long left to keep Ortiz distracted enough times to land his right. Which is how he won.

Had he been the shorter guy with the shorter reach that tactic obviously would have been useless.

 

Wilders power is freakish .like a HW hearns with less skill obviously .his light weight means unlike most modern HWs he can fight at a fast pace this adds to his potential to score KO s late in fights as most HWs slow down .Wilder has a real mean streak rare in fighters he really wants to destroy his opponents .in attitude he is similar to a young Benn kill or be killed.

 

Except It's "weightclasses", not "heightclasses". Wilder isn't bigger than prime Tyson or Foreman.

 

Guys it's not just large heavyweights who have stamina issues. Though they have the worst issues. It's just heavyweights in general. I've never seen a 215 pound plus guy with an Antonio Margarito or Manny Pacquiao workrate. It's just not going to happen.

Wilder has very good stamina for his division though and it's a big advantage for him.

 

Lol Wlad natural weight is 220 befor he bulked up. Wilder weighed 214 this one fight because he chose too. Wilder is a natural 220 plus pound man. Ortiz natural weight is 220, he just comes in the ring out of shape like most modern heavyweights do. Lewis never fought Foreman so he doesn't know how hard Foreman punched by Holyfield did say Foreman hit him harder than Tyson. Foreman was listed at 6'3 230 as a 19 year older and chose to get lighter like most fighters back then did. Which means in teams of bulk weight Foreman was heavier than Wlad, Vitali, Lennox Lewis, Ortiz and others. Most heavyweights (I mean real heavyweights not 180 pound heavyweights like Marciano from the 50's) from the 70's came into the ring lighter than they could of or should of. They took great care of themselves and took boxing seriously. So you seen few fat heavyweights back then. But