Wilfredo Benitez vs Manny Pacquaio

Pacquaio that fought Mosley would get beat but PACQUAIO who fought Margarito, cotto close fight in Clottey fight different Pacquaio also why only he knows

 

Not a big puncher, but enough pop to get respect, Benitez at his best among the best technicians and defensive at that. Benitez at his best since like Duran wasn't consistent towards the end, which you can't really blame him, would be like a Juan Manuel Marquez in his prime at 126, but at 147. Benitez was still a much more smoother operator, abit slick at times, seemed like a natural fighter like Floyd. It would be close, but Benitez does great under pressure and stays calm in front of killers like Hearns and Duran, so he'd stay very cool when fighting Pacman. Pacman would have to pressure him non stop, but Benitez could be very quick too. I think Benitez by SD. Pacman has power, but not power like Hearns or Duran had. The only reason Benitez beat Duran was because he faced the slower, technical version and which was still a close fight, not the destroyer Leonard faced in Montreal.

 

i'll tell you Duran's hands weren't as fast as pac but to me durans legs were crazy fast. vs leonard 1. Leonard would back up 7 and 8 feet away from him and like in a milisecond duran was right in front of him throwing a 4-5 punch combo. he wasn't faster but was as aggresive, offensive, and more powerful then pac. threw tons of punches too. But look at it this way, duran was really effective, why? his combos were rare, he wasn't your average aggressor coming at you with a 1-2 followed by hooks uppers and big right. He would reverse his combos, throw them not in a unorthodox way but an unexpected way. you never know if it was going to be right upper - left hook - straight right. OR right hook - left upper - straight right. not as fast as leonard, benitez or pacquiao, but good speed. fast enough to catch you. and not as easy to slip.

so where im getting at is duran hit harder than Pac, hit benitez, didnt Ko him. Hearns at his prime at the time hit way harder than pac and was explosive and quick as well, caught benitez flush with the right that dropped many like a wall and didn't Ko benitez, so no way i see pac testing his chin. Hearns, Duran, Leonard, gave Benitez chin a test, pac would give it a quiz that wouldn't effect his grade. Benitez made leonard miss alot of his shots which was rare at 147, and handspeed was quicker than pac so i see Benitez making him miss more because of this. Pacquiao will need to faint and make distance and land a big left to hurt benitez real bad, with benitez's movement and alert stance ready to move to either side i see pacquiao miss 90% of the time he throws it, and his unorthodox combos in the inside will land for sure at times, though it wont have the effect the straight left would have. Don't forget benitez had enough pop too make his opponents respect him. And seeing benitez accuracy letting him land clean and manny at the end of the day being a naturally smaller though a Great fighter, it will still take toll on him and make him respect Benitez. as for his aggressiveness, watch a few benitez fight and see how he'd step back with movement to make you miss and when you'd go forward to him to stay on the offensive, he'd also randomly step in, score a combo and was out by the time you wanted to get something out of the exchange. So he had everything to stop manny's offense while being on the offensive/defensive himself. Remember he's fully capable of going 15 rounds and thowing tons of punches in all of them, and ended up scoring the tko on the somewhat unorthodox Hope in the 12th.

Ricans may be known more for pure raw power and being textbook more than having a chin, but benitez IMO goes a bit after Laporte in ricans with the best chins.

 

A "prime" Benitez whips Pacman and Pacman would get tired trying to hit him. Benitez tko 11 rounds.

 

when I say "test his chin" I don't mean that he would knock him out but rather that he would catch him flush. Pacquiao has brutal power that comes from the fact that he punches people from awkward angles when they don't expect to get hit. And as good as Duran was, his legs are not as fast as Pac's and his combinations not as sustained. Duran also fought Benitez at LMW. I'm assuming Pac would fight the younger, skinnier Benitez who fought Leonard.

Pac beats that version of Benitez by a close decision.

But it's a fantasy matchup, there's no way to prove who's right or wrong.

 

thats true but i think Duran was still solid when he fought benitez. Also you have to know ray was amazing but was more of the guy to step away from shots more than to slip them. Duran was a straight up killer wanting to be at war constantly while having underrated head movement. So Leonards movement would frustrate him, sometimes Leonard would throw a combo and by the time Duran flinched, Leonard was almost on the other side of the ring, lol. While Benitez making him miss while standing in front of him wether it was inside or outside, this would frustrate him alot more. i rather have a guy stepping away from my shots then making me miss, it can throw anyone off focus and make them loose there composure. Still the way i see it was, It wasn't the Duran that fought leonard the first time But his aggressiveness was still there and power for sure never left him even in his 40's Lol. So he wasn't the same version but still was the dangerous duran capable of destroying anyone he caught on the ropes. Since he was known to destroy anyone he had on the ropes, and Benitez invited him in and slipped most of his shots. So inviting a Duran who still had the power and ability to destroy anyone on to the ropes is very impressive.

 

Well Benitez was still at prime in between 147-154 but a 147 Benitez that fought Leonard was going to be quicker on his feet, which makes him more effective in his attributes, and still the size advantage to get him respect IMO. Remember people claim if anyone had the ability to test and beat pac with pure defense and counter punching its mayweather, and Benitez in my Book is still ahead of mayweather in Slipping and Movement. being floyd moves more back and forth, while benitez moved alot to the sides as well, getting the best out of Pacs openings from an angle pac would have to start all over after missing.

But like you said it's a fantasy match.

Benitez gave leonard a tough fight for sure. But i still dont understand why in the world benitez wouldn't let his Right hand go. So i guess he layed down the blueprint on how to big leonard a tough fight with one hand, lol.

 

I would have liked to see Benitez against the Duran of the Palomino fight or montreal version at Welterweight... I know he had a tuff style for Duran, but i feel Duran lost a step in speed and even was a little less tame after moving up to JM..


Ok im off topic as for Manny well at WW or JM... Im thinking Benitez outboxes him in enough rounds to pull out the decision, expecially at JM ,Benitez power probably improved a little and i feel his chin too(maybe).. Even though i see Benitez schooling Manny in most of the early and some mid rounds, i do feel that Manny would definitely win some rounds big, although Benitez has the range and superior counterpunching skills.. Mannys agression and all out attack would eventually get going against Radar, although probably not until the later rounds, i think Mannys power is still underrated at WW and would definitely suprise and probably hurt Benitez a couple times... Hearns hit him clean but he fought as the motor city cobra that night and the plan was to outbox the master boxer,Hearns didnt tend to blow guys out when fighting in that mindset.. Benitez had a solid chin when he moved up to WW and JM but it wasnt as great as one of the posters ^^ said, i had seen him hurt/dropped quite a few times. (Bruce Curry/Leonard and ?)... At WW i see Wilfred winning enough of the early and mid rounds and frustrating the hell out of manny ,, but i think Manny makes a late charge,maybe even scoring a knockdown to make it somewhat close.. Benitez close but convincing decision,, At JM Benitez wins a more decisive decision as his natural size combined with solid power (enough to keep Manny honest) would be more of a difference.

At JW though i see a different scenario... Although already a master boxer at 17,18.. I have the feeling Manny would eventually ko him... Benitez looked marvelous in beating old great Cervantes, but also was lucky to escape with a win over Bruce Curry and dropped a couple times.. Also had his hands full with the classy bpxer but hardly great Harold Weston in, this was around the same time Benitez was still at JW... I think this starts off like the WW scenario with Benitez doing well early and frustrating Manny,, but at JW i think Manny experience and relentless gets thru on the YOung Benitez, his chin was also kind of shaky here, and i feel this is Mannys true weight and would be his best weight he has ever fought at.... Manny comes from behind to ko Benitez at JW.... Pac Ko 10.

 

Benitez was a threat in all ways, he had power, boxing skills, offense, and great defense. That combination for a full 12 rounds will have giving Manny hell. Let's not forget the guy could do it for 15 rounds. Manny's last few opponents had great skills in one area but lack in others or some couldn't keep their strengths in area for a full fight. Benitez in other hand was perhaps one of the best all around fighters in any era when you think of his skills. He would have confuse Manny and frustrate him at times.

 

yeah maybe i made his chin look too great, but those rights Hearns caught him with were the same he'd usually dropped his opponents. Stepped back, cocked the right, made distance and put everything on it. So eventhough Hearns plan was to outbox he put everything into those rights. Benitez chin was shaky, but he carried the tools to spare him time and create distance, while for example cotto, also has a shaky chin but doesn't know what to do except back away or trade. Benitez took alot of Punches from a very young age, his dad was cruel, but that takes nothing away from your opinion, i agree with your thoughts on JWW. Maybe had he not taken punishment from bigger kids from an early age, he'd have even more resistance in taking shots later on. But maybe had he not have the same skills. But we never know that's why is boxing, and life.

 

Benitez is Marquez X10 with defense and counterpunching. Not a good style match up for Pac, I'd give Pac a better shot a Duran or JCC

 

Agreed. You have a good eye on that one Leonard moving back, not ala Tommy leaning back kinda way, but he moved back with his legs below him so yea. Post Leonard or more like MW-JMW Duran for the most part was Duran the technician or the resourceful one. Jab, jab, right hand. Went from full throttle in his LW and WW days to half throttle his JMW-MW days. Still a force. Back to Benitez, I'm still shocked to this day how he fell to Moore. Still, at WW or JMW Pacman isn't winning this one. Benitez ain't no punching bag or zombie like Margarito and Mosley were.

 

Tommy hearns couldn't KO el Radar but *******s think Manny can...:nut

 

I know, the fighters that have recently lost to manny either were focusing too much on offense, or too much on defense to the point there offense was 0. thats why i state back in the day when fighters had to resort to a way to do better or win they would adjust to a style and try it all before going out, now a days its what you know how to do best or just straight up loose if your plan doesn't go your way. I for sure don't even count Benitez lost to moore and after that. Not even Chavez's loss to oscar. or laporte's losses when he should have been retired. You saw a young talented kid but he took punishment since a little kid from bigger kids because of his dad. it was what made him look so expirienced, to me he could have been a 25 year old Boxer, but had the body of a 33 year old boxer. Thats why he basically faded instantly all of a sudden. It was bound to happen because of his rough times, but i dont even know if the stuff about him doing drugs is true but i heard it before too.

 

Pacquiao gets out-blacked
Pac eats A LOT of counters n gets frustrated in this fight
N the counters will make him more tentative
As good as pacquiao is, benitez's style is just all wrong for him