Wilfredo Gomez - Naoya Inoue

You said:

"You seem to be underestimating just how hard it is to be fighting often and still trying to maintain weight."

You clearly underestimate just how hard it is to play a professional sport, which you acknowledged that you knew nothing about, over the grind of 6 months and 160+ games. Just because they don't get punched for a living does NOT mean that the mental and physical grind is any less than boxing. That's just ignorant.

Today's athletes across all sports perform at a much higher level due to advances in sports nutrition, training methods, and the fact that people today are able to live better and healthier lives. Again, I'll use baseball as an example because there are clearly defined markers — pitchers are throwing significantly harder and hitters are hitting balls more violently and farther (exit velocity). Look at today's NFL teams — bigger, stronger, faster. Boxing is not excluded from the general advancement of sports science training and benefits. Clenelo fought 7X in 2006 and 7X in 2007. Why and how was he able to do this? Because the quality of opposition was whack. And that's how the old timers were able to fight so frequently as well — because the opposition wasn't that great and they could get by without what we call full training camps today. I don't know why you can't grasp the simple concept of athletes being superior today.

You can see SRR whipping Crawford, Spence, Boots, Ortiz, Stanionis, Thurman, Ugas, Besputin, and Kavaliauskas in a span of 1 year while they all have 8-10 week training camps?

I'm gonna need you to swear on your wife's life if you actually believe this.

 

You would take SRR to beat the entire list of names over a one year span? Was SRR made of Teflon?

 

Crawford. Spence. Maybe a more seasoned Ennis.

So why are you still a fan of boxing if the guys today are absolutely garbage to the point where a guy who fought from the 40s to the 60s would wipe them all out in the span of a year without modern training camps? Serious question. If the quality has declined to that great a degree, why bother watching?

 

No, this isn't really about Inoue at all.

It's about how automatic it is for so many people to say X fighter from days of old would annihilate Y fighter of today. Quite frankly, it's largely cemented in nostalgia and a total disregard for advances in science, medicine, sports nutrition, etc..

Most people hail the McClaren F1 as the GOAT supercar. If you look at strictly performance, there's a 4 door family sedan that beats it 0-60 and there are supercars today that far exceed the McClaren's top speed of 240 mph. There are muscle cars from the past that would get smoked in 0-60 times, top speed, and handling by today's budget sports cars. Appreciate the past, but don't discount the present at the expense of nostalgia for a bygone era.

 

To classic fans, things like size, muscular development, speed, strength, recovery time are irrelevant.

Only two things matter. How they rank "all-time" and their style of fighting.

Ask them, Jack Johnson beats Jalolov. Jalolov hasn't proven he is better "all-time"; Henry Cooper can KO Filip Hrgovic, Zhilei Zhang and Martin Bakole in one year.

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Nobody making a living out of boxing would rather fight Artur Beterbiev than Joe Frazier for the same pay. Nobody.

 

Classic guys must be luddites except for their use of mobile phones and computers.

 

I'll respond to your MLB post at some point. I think it was in this thread.



In the interim, Padres Vs. Astros in the WS?

 

I don't have a problem with anyone picking Gomez, Zarate, Olivares, Fenech, or Harada over Inoue.

I just hate it when idiots say Inoue would get annihilated or they can't see a path to victory for Inoue.