Will a good boxer always defeat the brawler?

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  1. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    History shows that a pure puncher KO artist will most always be defeated by the best boxers.
    -Ali-Foreman
    -Randell Baily's career
    -Ward-Froch
    -Mayweather-Maidana

    Are just a few classic examples.

    I realize that many casual boxing fans love the excitement of the KO artist, but these fighters most always end up finally meeting a superior boxer, being defeated and never being the same afterwards.

    Is it a true statement to say the boxer always finally prevails over the puncher?
     
  2. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends. The one thing that all those guys you mentioned, is that they knew how to stick to their guns, and knew not to get lured into a war. A lot of guys get lost in the moment, and get hit and think "I gotta hit him back now" then they get reckless and get dropped.

    If you look at Ali-Foreman, Ward-Froch, Mayweather-Maidana.

    All of the A side fighters knew how to weather the storm, and/or stick to their gameplan. Its as simple as that.

    If you trust in your skills, and think your way out, chances are you'll win.
    If you get caught in the rush, and that adrenaline kicks in, and you think you can slug with the brawler ( most cant) chances are you'll lose.
     
  3. Green Man

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    Saddler-Pep I,III & IV
    Saddler- Elorde
    Olivares-Rose
    Marciano's almost entire career
    Jackson-Norris

    To name some examples that are the opposite of the thread title.
     
  4. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    theres many type of ko artist to me a brawler will lose to pretty much any disciplined style! a composed infighter is something else too bad this style is almost dead.
     
  5. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Nope. Mayorga-Forrest is just another example.
     
  6. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    froch has never been the same since losing to ward? wrong again.
     
  7. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it depends on whose the better fighter. If you put an A level brawler vs a B level boxer the brawler will win but when both are elite it will make for a 50-50 great fight. then again brawlers of pressure guys like Duran and Chavez, im not old enough to have seen Saddler but im sure he should be mentioned, are not just brawlers they also have skill to avoid the opponents punnches when putting on the pressure. but it just depends on who follows their game plan. for a good brawler to be effective he will need to be good at cutting of the ring though
     
  8. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We have to expand the sample size per fighter beyond a single fight. Look at the rest of Mayorga's career against superior boxers to get a better feel.

    Look at Carl Froch. He almost always loses to superior boxers like he loss to Ward, Kessler, nad although he received bad ref'ing, to Dirrell and got a lucky last minute punch in against Taylor.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    hearns the slick punching boxer
    vs
    hagler the ferocious straight ahead slugger
     
  10. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    4 out of 5 times yes
     
  11. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Froch beat Kessler too (and their first fight was very close), Dirrell used his speed and athletic advantages to doing everything possible to avoid getting in a fight and he came on in the last few rounds against Taylor. Saying he landed a lucky punch (there's no such thing by the way) dismisses a great come from behind victory.

    The Mayorga-Forrest example was the first to come to mind but history is littered with examples of "more skilled" fighters getting beat.
     
  12. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are no absolutes in baxing.
     
  13. GeoffJ

    GeoffJ Active Member Full Member

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    Broner Maidana, Malignaggi Porter
     
  14. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no how stupid is that
     
  15. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    80% of the time yes.