Will a good boxer always defeat the brawler?

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  1. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    It only takes one shot...it is a fascinating matchup that goes both ways
     
  2. kragz

    kragz 49*-0 Full Member

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    No. Mayweather lost to Maidana and Castillo.
     
  3. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. Brighton bomber

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    Always? No of course not, there are plenty of examples of then the puncher has beaten a superior boxer. But in general a skilled boxer has more ways to win, especially if the boxer can punch hard as well.

    A puncher/brawler only has one or two ways to win, get the KO or hurt the opponent often enough to win the majority of the rounds both options rely on them being able to make their power count. If the puncher can't hurt the boxer then he has no plan B. A complete boxer can do different things during the fight to overcome the puncher which is why they win more often than not.
     
  5. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not what the record says, Happy Fathers Day.
     
  6. blackbolt396

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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Will The superior Boxer almost always prevail over the pure puncher?

    If the superior boxer has a good chin, no stamina issues, and is not giving up a lot in size, the answer is almost always.

    But much depends on the skills of the puncher. The term pure puncher kinda of says the guy isn't very skilled.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    If all things are equal give me the a level boxer over the a level brawler 9 out of 10 times.
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taking a look at HW/LHW/MW/WW all time great list of boxers, the list is comprised of a majority of boxers. Granted, some have true punching power like Louis, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, but they still were not known as having brawler styles and were better known for being more boxer than puncher.

    Fighters who were known for their big punch like Foreman, Shavers, Bailey, and soon, Wilder and Kovalev will eventually always fall way short of being equal in talent to their boxing superiors such as Lewis, Toney, Mayweather, Hopkins.

    It seems to me that although brawler punchers provide fan excitement in the ring, their styles don't conform to the key ingredients needed to achieve all time greatness with the missing ingredient being the fine honing their fundamental boxing skills.
     
  12. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    pure slugger would lose most of the time to boxer. Skilled swarmer like Tyson, duran in latter career, mostly gave pure boxers hell.
     
  13. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not alway but in most cases yes.
     
  14. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but most people , even people who call themselves "Sweet Science Gurus" dont have the observational skill or boxing knowledge to separate brawlers from pressure fighters from swarmers.

    Pure Boxer beats Brawler beats Pressure Fighter beats Pure Boxer. Thats how those matchups are handicapped.

    Of course many fighters can utilize different styles, or attributes of different styles to a certain extent. There are very few matchups where both guys embody only one archetype.
     
  15. MetalLicker

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    Boxer's weakness: Brawlers/Pressure Fighters
    Brawler's weakness: Boxer-Punchers
    Boxer-Puncher's weakness: Pure Boxers

    This is true most of the time, but there are a lot of in intangibles involved, such as speed, footwork, toughness, chin, power and skill level.

    Mayweather is a boxer, so is Broner and they will always have trouble with guys like Maidana & Porter. Pac is a combination between a boxer-puncher and pressure fighte, and he matches up really well against brawlers. Mayweather matches up well against other boxers and boxer-punchers like Alvarez and Guerrero.

    GGG & Kovalev is a combination between boxer-puncher and pressure fighter, making them very difficult to fight regardless of style.