Will a good boxer always defeat the brawler?

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  1. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm using brawler/puncher interchangeably where both are boxers who place more emphasis on offensive punching, be it power or volume.
    Foreman was mostly a power puncher where Maidana is a volume puncher but I place both in the brawler category simply because neither have the boxing skills or styles to increase their chances of winning by out-boxing their opponents.
     
  2. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    You know what's the funny thing about this statement?

    Once the brawler knocks out the boxer or beat them up, the boxer usually comes back with less confidence a good portion of the time and they get beat again. Look at fighters like Meldrick Taylor, Bute, Pep, Arguello who faced their rivals and come back and preform with less confidence in a rematch or subsequent fights.

    By nature, brawlers are not only physically tougher, they're also mentally tougher than boxers. And if the boxer lacks mental toughness to handle the defeat, they come back a different fighter...a worse one.
     
  3. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First, I wouldn't include Bute in the boxer list.
    Prior to Froch, Bute wasn't exactly known for out boxing his opponents. He
    was starting to be known a being an one uppercut KO artist, right?
    Two fights later he was KTFO, and we see how strong his mentality is and how he made a comeback, right. :lol:

    Secondly, when one of the world's best known brawler/Punchers lost by KO, George Foreman, he almost went insane and had to turn to religion to save not only his soul, but his sanity. Only when he learned to imitate the mentality of his rival boxing opponent was he able to make a comeback, years later.

    Author Abrabam is a brawler/puncher who usually waits until his opponents slow down in the later rounds before he unleashes a power punch that generally wins him the fight.
    During the super 6 this strategy didn't work so well for him being his opponents were not only able to out slug him, but outbox him.
    Following the S6 Abraham reevaluted his career strengths and has limited himself to competing at MW in German among the lesser talented B level boxers.:yep
     
  4. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but the swarming, volume punching style is well suited to counteract the strengths of a pure boxer. Meanwhile, a typical puncher who sits back, picks his shots, and looks for that big shot plays right into the hands of a boxer. So from my perspective, it makes no sense to lump them together when assesing their chances a boxer.
     
  5. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope . Not always .
     
  6. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maidana is as good an example of a swarmer as we will see today. Using him as an example, a good boxer like Mayweather will beat a swarming puncher like Maidana 10/10 times.
    Now a swarmer like Aaron Pryor I would have listed as a boxer, because although Pryor swarmed, his boxing ability was very high, well above those of Maidana over almost any other swarmer/puncher.
     
  7. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    99% of this relies on the CHIN factor
     
  8. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A boxer like Mayweather would beat Maidana 10/10 most likely but he is a ATG doesn't that factor in to it?

    Lesser boxers than Mayweather with a similar style wouldn't be guaranteed to beat Maidana though, comes down to levels as well not just styles.
     
  9. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    I'd say a boxer like Lara will beat a brawler like Maidana 9/10 times. :yep
     
  10. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jnr Middle weight would out box a former Jnr Welter, not surprised. :D
     
  11. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The answer is NO. Other intangibles come into play. See Ruelas/Pendleton, Baldomir/judah, Maussa/Harris, etc.