Will a Rigo win make him ATG

Mayweather never beat anyone Elite??? Ok.. Please elaborate?? WTF is elite then?? Please enlighten me.. Tyson and Naseed were just incredible personlaities and yes great fighters too. Lots of drama too which helped them with the ''Hype''.. Im only refering to skills and actual competition...

 

Uh, I was only talking about what a win would do for Rigo's ATG status, not Loma's. I agree that Loma's had two excellent wins and his pro career to this point has been very good, and he's on track to greatness. I rate Rigo highly and would consider him Loma's greatest win to date, though the size difference will deservedly keep it from really elevating Loma. But Loma's in his prime, it's Rigo whose career we should talk about because he's in his twilight.

 

You said you don't understand the hype surrounding Loma because he's never beaten anybody "elite". Which means operating on HOF/ATG level. Please tell me which elite fighter Mayweather beat in their prime.

My point remains as seen with Tyson and Hamed and Floyd. You don't need to beat an elite fighter to become a HOF fighter, a great fighter, or a big name fighter. Plenty of guys have beaten nobody elite. Those 3 guys are good examples.

 

The winner of this fight will have a strong case for the hall of fame.

There is too much talk about Rigo's age. He has had zero tough fights as a pro, and is well preserved and in shape.

 

Biology is biology. 37 means you have slowed down. You cannot possibly be at full capacity at 37. It's impossible. They said the same thing about GGG being 35. "He's preserved, never been beatdown, in shape, blah, blah, blah". His reflexes and stamina has gone to ****...

Father time never loses. He always wins.

 

I'm saying he hasn't taken punishment, sort of like Mayweather at age 37. Do you think that is a fair comparison?

Has anyone ever said Rigo is slowing down before here? NO.

Its a sudden built in excuse if he looses this fight. I assure you he's very fast and skilled, hardly a just tuned 37 year old who taken a lot of punishment. Besides 37 with his style is more like 33 decades ago.

GGG has an action swarming type of style, which means he's getting hit a lot more. And he has visibly slowed down.

With boxing the age means one thing, but the journey traveled is also important. In 17 pro fights Rigo has mostly won easily. He does not have 40+ fights where he was hit a lot.

 

Rigo has been down several times. He's taken damage. Mayweather has never been down (officially) and in the case where I did see him touch the floor with his gloves, it wasn't a clean shot. It's hard to tell if Rigo has been slowing down because his challengers lately have been so so. We know speed and reflexes decline first and no matter what people say, 37 is 37. I think people are minimizing the physical advantages to boost a likely win for Loma.

Being in the 40s myself, it's a world of difference once you get past your mid 30s.

 

Althought thi has nothing to do with Mayweather and you seem to be leaning more towards prime now that Ive questioned your post as you wrote Elite first.. Prime to me doesnt neccesarily mean youth as many fighters dont hit their peak until later on as experience plays a huge role IMO.. Here are just some names of both some prime in what I think would be your standards for a prime fighter and defintelt most are Elite names.. I mean its just obvious.. Just my two cents but cool.. Lets agree to disagree Diego Corrales, Genaro Hernandez, Castillo, Ghatti, Marcos Maidana twice, Manny Paquiao, Mosley, Cotto, Alvarez, Ricky Hatton,Shane Mosley,

 

I think both men will get dropped in this fight, probably loma first which will be a shock

Loma via sd in a fairly entertaining fight but not as good as its been hyped up to be

 

If not, retiring undefeated, doing something no one has ever done before, and knocking over two #1 p4p fighters five years apart is a good place to start. Seriously, nobody has ever gone up two weight classes to beat a p4p fighter three inches taller and 8 years younger. I think this would be a first.

 

FuMaster,

I was unaware he was down several times. I thought it was only once. If this is the case Lomo's going to stop him. I really hope it is not an early KO win for Lomo otherwise the internet chin police will be out in full force.

I think you can gauge the speed of a fighter regardless of who he's in there with, at least from a hand speed perspective, but I agree, things slow down once you pass 40. My hand speed was very good in my mid 30's, but the acceleration seems to have slowed down a bit these days.

 

Not if Aubrey de Grey has something to say about it!

 

Interesting.

Rigo has 400 amateur fights and is probably a year or two older than 37.

 

He's already a h2h ATG imo.

If he win his stock goes up, if he loses its cos he's old.

 

To the general public and casual fan, probably not. But to the true boxing fan, skill wise, Loma and Rigo are already both ATGs