Will Abrham match Calzaghes 20 defences?

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  1. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes going the Joe Calzaghe route of mathcmaking ORals and tucker Pudwills. But in Joes defenc he did at least win his title against a former world champ(who took the fight at 2 weeks notice) and at least faced 7 world champs in 20 title defences.

    Abraham is taking the word conman to a whole new level. He has never even beaten a world champion!! and hes made 8+ defences.

    His reputation is based on the KO of Miranda whos legs had been previously knocked out of him by Pavlik.


    I betting Abraham matches Sven Ottkes titles reign.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Prob not.
    Unless he continues to fight the caliber he is fighting for the next decade or so.
     
  3. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he will move to 168 very soon.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Abraham's 6 most recent title defenses are:

    Oral (Probalby could have fought Karmazin)

    Simon (Winky wanted a fight)

    Marquez ( Can't *****, it was a mando)

    Ayala (Zuniga wanted and deserved the fight)

    Elcock (feather fisted prospect)

    Gevor (Featherfisted, no notable wins)

    Arum and Dunkin are still trying to make Pavlik/Abraham, but Arthur says he'll leave 160 after the Oral fight.
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No.

    He will move up very soon.
     
  6. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, he will move up to 168lbs, I believe he's struggling with the 160lbs division. Excellent fighter.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Karmazin called Arthur out. Do you have any insight into why Oral got a fight instead of Roman?
     
  8. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    When did he call him out?

    And besides calling out means ****.

    And Karmazin just fought like 2 months ago.
     
  9. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Ghevor is better than some people give him credit for but his overall standard of opponents has been poor.

    He has been in a weak division and doesn't seem to have had as many mandatories as he should. I don't know if thats his fault, the IBF's or just that other fighters haven't been fighting eliminators, as the IBF insist you should to get mandatory status.

    If he does go up to 168 we'll get a better idea of his character as there are more good fighters there so less excuse for not finding any to fight.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Right after Roman won the NABF title in the McKart fight he said he wanted Abraham and Sturm, but had no desire to fight KP.
     
  11. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he'll make 1 more defense then move up as he's weight drained, selling his abilities well short.
     
  12. rickx1

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  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    To be fair Karmazin is high risk/low reward but a bette rname than Simon.Not necessarily a better fight.

    I have Karmazin's last fight on the Shumenov card but haven't watched it yet.Will watch it these days and see how he looks.

    He is really past it.
     
  14. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Bo doesn´t like Abraham
    Bo does like Pavlik

    :D
     
  15. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I liked Karmazin for Taylor, instead of Spinks, after he had picked up a couple of wins at 160, but since then Karmazin was knocked out at 154. Now he has the win vs McKart, but Branco is pretty faded, and Karmazin is notoriously easy to hit. I like Karmazin's attitude, and I think he was a very good fighter, but he lacks the recognition in Germany that Oral has, and he would be too open to getting hit.