Will America produce a great HW champ again?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Contrndeh, Aug 9, 2016.


  1. Contrndeh

    Contrndeh New Member Full Member

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    With no presence in Rio at Lt Heavy, Heavy or Super Heavy, it seems that it will be several years before a potential ATG shows up on radar from the US.

    To put this in historical context, and with respect to Wilder who is still an open book, I could also argue that there hasn't been a great heavy from America since the Holy/Bowe era of 20 years ago.

    I am sure if you told fight fans from 1895 to 1995 that "there will be a stretch of 25 years without a dominant American champ" you would have gotten very few people who would've believed you.

    So, has the assembly line that produced Sullivan through Bowe shut down for good or will it fire up again?
     
  2. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder if he puts more training in his technique and if he can recover from the injuries.
     
  3. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder is the true heavyweight champion right now. Produced in America. He's undefeated and all his fights are knockouts so far. Sure, his technique isn't quite ideal to some. He's the black Rocky. So for that, they won't like him.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I have him beating every champ and challenger of all time but for Peter Jackson.
     
  5. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    What's this reverse psychology rubbish?
    *licks dry lips
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He would beat 5 Marciano's in a single night given 10 rounds.

    Put your money on that!
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, but expect them to be more sporadic.
     
  8. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For alot of people here weather or not Wilder Ko's everyone he ever faces many wouldn't even consider him for the top 10 all time. Partly from being nostalgic and partly because of his weaker opposition.
     
  9. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't believe the US amateur boxing program couldn't find SOMEBODY to represent the USA in the upper divisions. Is it an issue of a lack of available talent or a lack of funding? Has this happened before? (A quick Google search shows the 2008 team was unrepresented in some divisions.) Crazy.

    Re: Wilder is true champ. Naw, he's just a belt holder, another in a long line that includes Ernie Terrell, Jimmy Ellis, Ken Norton, John Tate, Tony Tucker, Bruce Seldon... not bad fighters, but not real world champions. If Wilder keeps defending his Whatever Boxing Administration belt, I hope he gets his true title shot.
     
  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is he the true heavyweight champion?
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This quite a drought we're going through...going beyond the matter of an "American" champ, I'm hoping that Fury remains successful, as he has more charisma than all the other heavyweights rolled up in to one IMO. That, ultimately is better for boxing than merely an American born champion in the mean time.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know.. Unless there's some prospect lurking around under the radar out there, then I suppose the answer is " not for a very long time." Wilder is a solid heavyweight, but also unproven at the highest level. And some of his opponents like Artur Szpilka have exposed some flaws.. That and he's already around 31 years old. Not sure I'd favor him to beat Fury or Joshua. He'd likely be a betting underdog against both at this point. America isn't where boxing's at any more..
     
  13. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just on the point of non-competitive Olympians,

    several American posters have pointed out for years on this board that boxing is more or less dead in America.

    All the info from the medical community on the long-term harm done by blows to the head to brain function is having a finishing impact. It is hard for me to see how any caring parent would allow their child to go into boxing.

    Boxing used to be a way out for kids who were on the wrong track and had criminal tendencies or records. Now such folks are much more likely to go into politics.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    LOL :lol::lol::lol:

    I wonder what kind of boxer Hilary might have made in another era.
     
  15. Setanta

    Setanta Guest

    It's nothing to do with politics Briggs just wasn't an ATG