Will Amir Khan ever win...

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Will Amir Khan ever win a world title again?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    A Thurman jab would KO Khan
     
  2. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Lol!
     
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    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    The body shot Khan hit Maidana with would have filed Thurman like a wallet.
     
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    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's so funny? It's the truth. If Thurman lands on Khan, it's over.
     
  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Khan has had 3 fights at welterweight and they are better than all of Brooks wins practically.

    He schooled Devon Alexander 12-0 and Alexander arguably beat Brooks best win Shawn Porter. TBH many had Porter beating Brook funnily enough. (I actually thought Brook beat him by a few rounds myself)

    He beat Collazo up winning every round and dropping him. Collazo went on to badly hurt Thurman and having him on the run only to get stopped on an injury.

    Khan beat up Algieri and we all know would beat the brakes off the likes of Gavin, Bizier and Jojo Dan
     
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  6. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Porter is better than every fighter Khan has faced at WW. Just for good measure Khan picked Porter to Brook.

    Collazo lol. His an drunk.

    Brook would not get hit by Algeri. Amir Khan beforehand said he would beat Algeri in a better fashion than Pacquiao did. Please.

    As I said Khan has not beaten any World Class WW. The only thing he is remembered for since losing to Garcia is getting brutally knocked out by Canelo.
     
  7. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Alexander is = to Porter and Brook, Khan spanked him 12-0

    Alexander is Porters best win but it wasn't a real win it was just luck should have been a draw

    Who has this Kell Brook ever beaten besides Porter which was dubious any way?

    He's been a welterweight for 12 years and hasn't beaten any one besides a razor close decision against Porter?

    Khan has beaten plenty of Blokes better than Porter.

    Barrera is 10x the fighter he is so is Maidana
     
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  8. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that fights gonna be closer than what people think khan v brook. The two best wins have been maidana and porter. Apart from them 2 neither has many good prime guys on their record. Could be argued khan has a better resume overall tho. Hes fought more names although mostly either featherfisted. On the downward slide or smaller than him.

    Brooks is at least recent and khan hasnt really had a decent win for a while. Algeri would have been a good win if he shut him out but he struggled with him. Algeri did beat that prosnikov who was decent.

    Khan has bigger flaws than brook. But one thing people are overlooking is khans speed in this fight. Can brook be overwhelmed/outworked by it. How is he dealing with it because pretty much everyone bar prescott has struggled with it. Even garcia and canelo. The pressure fighters get to khan. But brooks isnt exactly a pressure fighter not a massive puncher either contrary to what people say. Brooks best attribute is his footwork. But what happens when khan starts popping 3 or 4 punches at him at a time. A lot of people say khans easily countered but i disagree. His problems are with guys that take his shots them come straight back at him. He cant keep them off.

    He was caught with counters against garcia whos left hook on the counter is a thing of beauty. But not many have that punch to rely on. And khans not popping 6 or 7 punches in range anymore.

    I favour brook. Because he ll eventually get to khan like pretty much any half decent opponent against khan would But can also make a case for khan taking it on points.

    The consensus is khan takes an early lead before brook comes on strong as the fight goes on. But can also see khan weathering the storm...and holding out for a points win. Its a 55/45 fight in brooks favour for me. Anything more than thats crazy to me.

    Although brooks is very good he gets elevated ridiculously in recent months. Wasnt even after porter. Because he was still getting stick after it. Jo jo dan fight and gavin. Then between gavin and golovkin. Eddie hearn started telling everyone he was the best welterweight in the world 100 times. It was then brooks sort of became invincible from out of nowhere. Great fighter but hes still got more to prove that hes already proven for me. Hes around the top of the division but in no way should people be declaring him head and shoulders above the rest.
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That speed is nothing without substance behind it. Those punches do no damage and by round 4 Khan always slows down anyway. Brook has timing and timing beats speed.

    If Algeri can land on Khan then it really won't be a problem for Brook and his power will put Khan away.
     
  10. james5000

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    I don't even care if Brook could beat Khan and you might be right but don't nitpick Khan's resume and talk up Brooks.

    If he beat Sam Eggington it would be Brooks 2nd best win ffs, he destroyed Gavin who is in contention to be his 2nd best win.
     
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    Mate the only time timing beat speed against khan was garcia,s counter left. And a lot of people argued although he was trying it from early that it was a close your eyes and throw shot. It was more working khan out than timing that beat him.

    Peterson, algeri, maidana, canelo. None of them timed him. Its a bit of a myth that timing always beats speed anyway. Something thats been bandied about for years. Khans speed is ridiculously fast. What beats khan is they continually back him up and pressure him. Hes predictable. Not many have actually hit khan with a counter shot. They wait for him to stop punching.

    The problem is i see with brook is who i think is a better overall fighter than khan is hes not a pressure fighter. More of a precision puncher if anything. But how much precision are you gonna get when three or four punches are coming at you and you need to reset. The likely scenario is brooks gets to him cause he does slow down but i can also see a strong case of brook not getting going in the fight also.

    One thing i know is brook will have problems with khans speed. Weather he knocks him out or not.
     
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  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Julio Diaz was timing khan all night long
    Aron Martinez showed alexanders level
    If we give props for every time a fighter hurt another should I remind you its called the hurt game
    Brook ends khan its a foregone conclusion one I will not be paying for its gone
    I want to see brook v Spence the time is right and khan its world tour time its over relevance zero
    He as a charitable donated no1 ranking with the wbc which he was removed from and then generously handed back
    No other ranking no notable wins for years and as not held a strap for longer than he had one
    Theses are the stark staring facts
     
  13. bbjc

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    Diaz was actually quite effective at timing khan your right to an extent. I m sure it was khans first fight under hunter. He was trying to slow him down and get khan to box. Was sometimes throwing one punch at a time hence the reason he ended up getting countered. Diaz,s success came mainly by pressure again. Would need to watch the fight back. But i m pretty sure khan reverted back to the khan of old during that fight. He started off boxing...was getting success. Then diaz started countering him. Khan reverted back to flashy thats when diaz started pushing him back and pressuring him. Would need to watch it again tho but pretty sure the countering success diaz had was down to khan trying to be a boxer...picking shots etc. Hes not bright enough to do it. I still say the best version of khan was under freddy roach. Freddy roach khan would have caused brook a lot of problems maybe even beat him. Freddy understood khans limitations. Hunter doesnt but i think he realised after that diaz fight.

    Brooks strengths all in his footwork. His counter punching isnt actually that fast. I can defo make a case for khan getting 2 or 3 straight shots off and brook not being able to get his counter in quick enough. The thing is all you need is to push khan back. Its not really brooks game tho. He gives guys problems with his excellent footwork not pressure. I get a feeling khans boxing might negate brooks best strength in this fight. He will get to khan...but will it be enough if khan takes a good lead.

    Dont get me wrong khan is a flawed fighter. To the point you cant really help him at this stage. Hes either going to get caught with counters if he tries to box or get pressured if he boxes his usual in and out three or four punches at a time flashy style. Cause essentially hes poor but for his excellent speed. But at the end of the day it can cause problems for certain opponents. I think brook might be one of them. As i said 55/45 fight in brooks favour maybe even closer but not a foregone conclusion.
     
  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    I'm afraid it is a foregone conclusion brook will walk straight through khan he will not respect khans power and khan will tire brook will be loading up them uppercuts and straight right it won't go past 9 IMO
    The fights sell by date as passed I'm afraid
     
  15. CathyBarry

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    Khan got bucked stupid ages ago, holds the world title for getting bucked bareback!
     
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