Will anybody ever beat Canelo on the scorecards again

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  1. BCS8

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    Even though I disagree with what you're saying, you're a good sport :thumbsup:

    Gotta respect that.
     
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  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude Canelo is my favorite current fighter o felt a draw was a good call, but even i can admit GGG won like 5 rds straight during the middle of the fight. Canelo won rds early and late but never has that sustained momentum in an obvious way like GGG had in the middle of the fight.

    Hell the reason most ppl likely got the impression Golovkin won was because of that i mean what sticks out more winning first 3 and last 3 or winnning 6/7 consecutively.
     
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  3. Farmboxer

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    Nacho Beristain can't be fooled...................he had it for Golovkin................Golovkin had the judges, referee, boxing commission all against him, and I know Bob Bennett wanted El Pollo to win, but remember, Oscar said there would be 3 fights...............so a draw was made, fans did not like it. The problem is that Bob Bennett and the powers-that-be truly believe the boxing fans are very stupid, they have zero respect for the fans...................Bob Bennett even told me the fans do not know how to score a fight, but Byrd is the best! Bulls t!
     
  4. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    And Bieber's reaction to it was hilarious. Definitely meme-worthy. :lol:

    From 154 to 165, I think the only shot anyone (such as Golovkin, Saunders or Jacobs) has of beating Canelo on points is to fight him somewhere which isn't Nevada, Texas, California or Mexico.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    Call Bob Bennett, the Nevada Boxing Commissioner and ask him if El Pollo can ever lose on the cards, he would know.............. 702-486-2575 ask him why Byrd is still judging fights..............
     
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  6. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Did he not tell you directly that Byrd is one of his best judges?
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Why do you have my girlfriends phone number?
     
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  8. Farmboxer

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    Yes, he told me she was the best, very true. I told him she has been corrupt for years, he said she was not bought off. Bob was nice, unlike he was to the reporter post-fight. When he said that fans do not know how to judge a fight, I told him the fans can judge a fight better than most judges! I even suggested he get x-fighters to judge fight, but he said they did not want to judge fights for some reason. I don't know, but it sounded like a lot of wishful thinking on his part..............he did admit that Byrd just had an off night.................no, she has had a lot of off nights and I have seen it. She should never judges another fight, but she is back according to Jim Lampley................if enough fans were to call, it might make a difference, at least some..............if they know we are on to them.............too many bad decisions in boxing...................fans get angry! I told him that there would be no boxing if not for the fans, PPV is expensive, but ringside is obscene! We have a chance to make a difference, at least some.....................we need to get the decisions out of the promoter's hands, this is not WWE!
     
  9. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Adelade Byrd's are a dime a dozen. They found a Connecticut judge to bring in and score the fight a draw giving Cucknelo the 7th(GGG's best round). Dinding judges who will play ball grow on trees and finding at least two for every Cucknelo fight is child's play. The real sad thing is no matter how much they screw Cucknelo's opponents you still get cucks, cuciking for the ginger cuck claiming he won.

    Another bizarre A side personality cult doing it's part to bury an already dying sport.
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After GGG's best round Abel Sanchez scolded Golovkin in the corner for letting Canelo win the last part of Golovkin's best round, where Golvokin was hit with a massive uppercut that stopped Golovkin in his tracks = Fact.

    If Abel Sanchez was so dissatisfied at Golovkin for how he finished his best round, and so worried in the corner that he might have given the round away, then what does that tell you about the other rounds?
     
  11. BCS8

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    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/grasping+at+straws
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fact of the matter is that after what is being called GGG's best round, round 7, Abel Sanchez scolded Golovkin in the corner claiming that he let Canelo win the last part of the round, explaining to Golovkin that he needs to finish rounds better, sounding worried that Golovkin may not have won that round. If that was in fact Golovkin's best round, as many Golovkin fans have claimed, a round that Sanchez didn't seem too pleased about in the corner, didn't seem to sure that he even won, that speaks volumes about how easily or clearly Golovkin was winning rounds as you and many others have claimed.

    If Abel Sanchez, Golovkin's very own trainer, wasn't satisfied with how Golovkin performed in his supposed "best" round, then how can you make the argument he won the fight so clearly as you have? It just doesn't add up.

    What is a better indication of how close a round is than a fighter's own trainer mic'd up communicating what he did wrong in the corner following the round? Surely Sanchez's statements following the round in the corner indicate that the round was a lot closer than you or any of your Golovkin fanboys are willing to admit. Face it, your view of that round is at odds with what Sanchez was saying in that corner. Several Golovkin fans have been caught red handed here by stating that this was Golovkin's best round as a means to discredit Trella's round 7 score. The only problem with that is it doesn't jive with what Sanchez was saying in the corner following the round. This blows up the idea that it was such a clear win for Golovkin. It's been a pleasure bringing this to your attention.
     
  13. BCS8

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    This won't take long.

    The actual words of Sanchez:

    "You've got to be consistent. The last 20 seconds are very important, G"

    In other words, he was happy with everything except for the last 20 seconds where Golovkin slacked off a bit and let Canelo get some shots in. Consider yourself served.

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  14. BCS8

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    "That was a total robbery... the judges dishonoured both Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez along with the noble art in inexplicable draw

    * Gennady Golovkin appeared to have beaten Canelo Alvarez well but was mercilessly robbed by judges
    * GGG described decision as 'terrible, unbelievable' after pushing pace and walking through power shots
    * Even Mexican fans inside T-Mobile Arena booed Alvarez as he tried to justify result in post-fight interview
    * Adalaide Byrd judged Alvarez victorious 118-110 to widespread disbelief and should be banned"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...honoured-Gennady-Golovkin-Canelo-Alvarez.html
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You didn't even quote him accurately. The first thing he said was “You let him take the last part of it OK”.

    Then he said "We gotta be consistent the whole round, the last 20 seconds are very important."

    He also added "You can’t just let him work the last 20 seconds."

    Guess what happened in the last 20 seconds BCS8? Remember that terrific uppercut that I kept bringing up that "stopped Golovkin in his tracks"? You know, the one that you kept ignoring? Yeah that's the one that got Sanchez's attention and caused him to scold Golovkin like that, to say that Canelo took the last part of the round, the critical part of the round in his mind, since he kept saying the last 20 seconds over and over again where the uppercut happened that made it such a close round.

    Golovkin surely was doing well in that round, it was one of his better rounds, he was on his way to winning it, but as Abel alerted Golovkin to, he gave away the round in the last 20 seconds by getting hit with that big uppercut and was hit with several jabs down the stretch. Anotherwords, He let Canelo back into the round towards the end when he could have won it clearly, which was the point of contention. How Golovkin finished the round getting hit like that, he made it more arguable / reasonable for a judge to score that round to Canelo. That's why Sanchez was so upset at Golovkin because if he finished the round without getting hit with that bomb and those jabs, Trella might have given him the round and he may have won.

    Your argument all along has been that Golovkin was winning the middle rounds so clearly to where there's no argument to the contrary. Well judging from Sanchez's reaction in the corner, he was very worried that Golovkin gave that round away by how Canelo well finished the round. Sanchez's reaction is right in line with Trella giving that round to Canelo. You don't react like that after a round that your fighter won clearly, which has been your argument in not just the 7th but in rounds 4-9. And if the 7th is in fact Golovkin's best round, well you do the math, that means the other rounds are even less clear for Golovkin than the 7th! Despite the counter left hook by Canelo with 2:04 left, Golovkin did appear to be on his way to winning that round, but Golovkin let the round slip away in the last 20 seconds and it cost him a victory on the cards.

    You're acting like Trella just out of nowhere mysteriously gave that round to Canelo. There was nothing mysterious about it. Abel was obviously very worried that that last part of the round may have swung the round in Canelo's favor, otherwise he wouldn't have been so adament about it to Golovkin.