Will anybody ever beat Canelo on the scorecards again

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Them be fightin' words. Find a new hobby, boxing isn't for me? That's a bold statement. It sounds like I only gave TG round 7? Apparently you haven't been reading my posts. I gave TG round 5 due to how well TG finished the round, and 6-9 were hard rounds to score. I think it's reasonable to award Triple G about 3 out of the 4 of those rounds due to how close 8 and 9 were in particular. So I end up with something like 8-4 Canelo for 7-5 Canelo. It's hard to award somebody rounds where the opponent lands the best hardest most impactful punches as was the case in rounds 6, 8 and 9.

    However as I've stated, trying to be fair to Golovkin he did outwork Canelo in those rounds especially in the 6th, despite Canelo landing the best single punch of the round. The key to Canelo winning for me was Round 4 which I thought Canelo won, but all 3 judges gave to Golovkin likely becuase Golovkin did better in the 4th than he did in the first 3 rounds, but still not enough to win the round in my estimation. So whether or not I give all rounds 5-9 to Golovkin or only 4 out of those 5, that would only make the difference on my card is 8-4 Canelo or 7-5 Canelo. If you give him the 4th, admittedly pretty much a toss up round, and all 5-9 you get a draw. That's a close fight to any reasonable boxing fan and for you to be in complete denial of this reality then having the gall to say I DKSAB that I need to find a new hobby and that boxing isn't for me is highly ironic since you don't seem to be aware of what actually happened in the fight while I have.
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Reading comprehension is useful.
     
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    The difference between a close Canelo win and a 118-110 Canelo win are rounds 4,5,6,8 and 9. Rounds 4 and 5 are pretty much toss-up rounds. Rounds 6 8 and 9 Golovkin outworked Canelo but Canelo landed the best and most impactful punches of the rounds including big uppercuts that rocked Golovkin.

    I've stated repeatedly that I don't agree with 118-110, I thought Golovkin deserved to win more than two rounds, particularly rounds 5 and 6 which Byrd gave to Canelo and possibly even 8 and 9, giving all those rounds to Canelo is a little ridiculous, but it's not like Golovkin convincingly won those rounds. Round 5 for example Canelo was ahead in the round and it was only in the last minute that Golovkin turned the tide. So once again while I don't agree with 118-110, it's not unreasonable to give *some* of those rounds to Canelo given that he was landing concussive uppercuts in 6, 8/9 and while Golvokin was busier had difficulty landing clean.
     
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  4. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tldr

    118-110
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2 short straight-to-the-point paragraphs is too long? If you can't read two short paragraphs, then what are you doing on a message board?
     
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  6. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only if his manager can offer the judges more money than Oscar
     
  7. IsaL

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    Excellent post
     
  8. IsaL

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    How many judges did he pay off according to you?
     
  9. kk17

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    At least 1 of 3 in every Canelo fight
    Levi Martinez in the Lara fight
    C.J. Ross in the Floyd fight
    Moretti in the Cotto fight
    Christodoulou in the Trout fight
    Byrd in the Golovkin fight
     
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  10. str1

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    Canelo will never lose on the scorecards. Only way for him to lose is by KO which won't happen. Canelo has a good chin and good defense. Best that anyone else can come close to Canelo will be another draw but not a win over him.
     
  11. IsaL

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    That's funny.

    You think De La Hoya would risk criminal charges by bribing one judge per fight?? LOLs

    WTF pays off only one judge? lol
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Got a ?? for ya
    You say casuals don't know how to judge a fight ?? How about Bob Bennet NSAC boss saying Adelaide Byrd is one of his best judges ROFLMAO He obviously don't know how to judge himself
     
  13. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Canelo fights Danny Garcia he is 100% losing on the cards.
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Another ??
    Why is it whenever anyone says anything slightly detrimental about Floyd,Canelo, Ward etc their rabd fans immediately label them HATERS !!! ?????????
     
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  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder has a learning disability due to only having half a human brain.
    Mora will get a call back to sparring and be a comeback for Alvarez.
    Most people I had it close, draw or narrow to GGG????
    UMM.... Isn't that everybody???

    You can only see it 5 ways.

    Only haters would have it a route for GGG, and only semen guzzlers would trick themselves into thinking Alvarez was even a solid winner.
    Fact is MOST.... OBJECTIVE SCORES HAD GGG WINNING CLEARLY, while some subjective scores went draw/close to Alvarez, and even fewer GGG apologists had it close to GGG, as if to say Alvarez was better than he gets credit for.

    Anything closer than 8/4 seems subjective to me.
    I had to watch it 3 times before I could find 4 clean Alvarez rds, while I see 6 dominant to GGG.

    Sad the CHAMP can't get a SINGLE.....NOT ONE.... Of the 4 closer rds from any of the 3 judges.
     
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