Will anybody ever beat Canelo on the scorecards again

The 118-110 score happened because Byrd was paying attention to what Canelo did in the first two minutes of the 5th round, and the big uppercuts that Canelo landed in rounds 6, 8 & 9, while the other judges paid more attention to Golovkin's jabs and his coming forward and being the aggressor in those rounds.

 

Yeah everyone scores fights different but 118-110 ???? There is no way that score fit's to the fight

 

Canelo landing uppercut bombs in rounds 6, 7, 8 & 9 made it hard to score. It depends if you value it when a fighter lands big concussive uppercuts like that. She apparently valued those big uppercuts more than the other judges who valued Golovkin's work rate.

Not that I put too much stock in compubox punches landed, but looking over the numbers the two rounds that Canelo landed his lowest # of power punches and % of power punches in the fight were the 4th and the 7th, the two rounds that Byrd gave to Golovkin.

The 4th and the 7th were also the two rounds that Canelo is credited for landing (and throwing) the most jabs he had out of the 12 rounds. Trella may have valued the fact that Canelo threw and landed so many jabs in the 7th while Byrd gave Canelo more credit for rounds that he was more consistently connecting on power punches.

When you look at round 7, it appeared to me that Canelo was getting hit with what appeared to be more jabs than usual, which may have caused Byrd to give the round to Golovkin, while Trella gave the 7th to Canelo possibly because of how Canelo finished the round with the big uppercut and how he was able to land more jabs that round than other rounds like the 6th, 8th and 9th.

That's my best guess, that she gave Golovkin the 7th due to Canelo getting hit by Golovkin's jab too much for her liking. In the other rounds that Byrd gave to Canelo, Golovkin was not able to get in as many clean jabs as he got in the 7th. On the other hand, the 7th was also Canelo's highest jab output of the fight, which may have impressed Trella combined with the big uppercut.

 

Ydksab then

Do you know the difference between SD and MD? Omg

If you pay one judge off you get a MD not a SD fool.

 

Have I told you about my carrot juice recipe?

 

Naw, see, you just go through the round, and the fighter that lands the single best punch of the round, wins the round. So what if their head had been bounced around like a bobblehead for the rest of the time.

 

That's really taking what I said to the extreme and trying to dumb down what I'm saying. It's not that the single best punch of the round automatically wins somebody the round, it's when the remainder of the round is relatively close enough to where the a single big punch could be what swings a fighter a round, or at least is something that can explain why a judge may have scored the round. Isn't that what we're here to do. I mean we're talking about how Trella scored Round 7 for Canelo, well naturally I went through and looked for reasons to explain why he may have done that. I mean honestly I doubt that through all the thousands of pages of debating the fight if that uppercut has even been mentioned. I know you're a big Triple G fan, but as a fan of boxing, we need to go through and point out big punches in rounds where fans are constantly wondering and questioning judges scores.

It's unfortunate that we don't even have a good angle of that punch to see where it even landed on Golovkin but obviously it was a big punch. The single best punch of the round could be enough to swing a close round. But it's gotta be relatively close. And both Canelo and Golovkin were landing jabs in that round.

Just going through punch stats Compubox said that in Round 7 Canelo landed 8/25 jabs (32%) while Golovkin landed 9/34 jabs (26.8%). Power punches in that round were Canelo 4/13 Golovkin 7/24. Now surely Canelo landed the hardest power punch of the round, that uppercut with 17 seconds left. There was a right hand or two in the 7th from Golovkin that may have gotten counted as a landed punch that Canelo may have actually avoided since he was pulling back near the ropes. So that 3 power punch advantage for Golovkin could be misleading as nothing he landed came close to that single thudding uppercut that as Lampley said "stopped Golovkin in his tracks".

There are levels to this, and you really need to read between the lines when you are studying compubox numbers. I mean lets be just real : jabs were about even, TG got credit for landing a 1 more jab than Canelo 9 to 8, but also had a significantly lower jab connect %. (32% to 26.8%) So both guys were comparable in the jab department. Then you have Canelo also landing the best single punch of the round, finishing the round strong. TG getting scolded by Sanchez about letting Canelo win the last part of the round. All this and you're still wondering why Trella gave the round to Canelo. Well those are reasons why. It's not as big of a mystery as you and other G fans try to make it seem as to why or how Canelo could have / may have done enough to win some of the rounds like 5-9. It doesn't mean you have to come out and admit canelo won that round, you could still think he lost it, but it should help you understand how people could have Canelo winning rounds like that and winning the fight. Just face it, in your mind rounds 4-9 are not even debatable to you, it's like you don't even wanna look at rounds that you're already decided in your mind are Triple G rounds. Part of talking boxing is going through the rounds and literally referencing punches and this to me is interesting, as Round 7 was a round that I kinda was putting off going through. But today gave me that opportunity to go through it and it would be great BCS8 if you could take a look at that uppercut by Canelo and comment on how you rate that punch. How he ducked that right hand by Triple G and how he landed that right uppercut. Why don't you comment on Sanchez's reaction in the corner after that that round scolding Golovkin for letting Canelo put in that work in the last 30 seconds of the round. And your lack of doing that it just comes off as you're just willingly not paying attention to what Canelo is doing and like Paulie Malignaggi once said, you're missing a great fight when you only focus on the fighter that you want to win instead of what's actually happening.

 

Sorry Shadow, TLDR.

I'm believe that YOU believe that Canelo won 118-110.

I don't need to argue with you on a punch by punch basis, because clearly you see things through a different lens to the rest of the world.

 

Don't need to argue. Lets keep it simple : short and sweet : Punch stats of jabs pretty much even : Canelo lands a uppercut bomb with 17 seconds left in the round. Sanchez scolds Golovkin for letting Canelo win the end of the round.

You don't have to agree with Trella on the 7th round, but it shouldn't be shocking to you that Trella gave that round to Canelo given that.

 

It shouldn't be shocking that if I put on my pro-GGG glasses I have him winning a whitewash.

I just pray that the rematch happens, and that these arguments are settled one way or the other. Funny thing is, I actually lke watching Canelo in the ring, he's really top class, but the antics around the fight, the judges scores, Oscar etc do put me off more than just a bit.

 

Almost everyone had Golovkin winning the fight, he landed more punches and made El Pollo run like hell! Even Bob Bennett told me that Byrd had a bad night! Nacho Beristain had Golovkin winning the fight, Harold Lederman had Golovkin 8 rounds to 4, Paulie had it 9 rounds to 3, the polls show around 90% of so had Golovkin winning the fight! Even Oscar did not agree with Bryd, she was shamed.....................an idiot!

 

wtf are you talking about

if 2 Judges score if for figther 1 and 1 judge scores it for fighter 2 it's a SD

If two of the three judges agree on which fighter won the match, while the third judge indicates that neither fighter won it's a MD

I can't believe we have to discuss this

 

Golovkin fanboys still crying it seems. Whatever happened to "Golovkin by early sparking!". Golovkin was stiff as a tree in the opening round and looked to be intimidated. When Alvarez loses clearly, then sure, his opponent will get the decision. Till then though, keep crying.

 

Alvarez lost clearly vs Floyd and do you remember how Ross scored it?

same with Byrd's score in the Golovkin fight. There is no way a 118-100 fits to that fight.

 

Still, Golovkin didn't win that fight and doesn't deserve to win it either. Alvarez didn't deserve to win it either. Both fighters looked terrible and a draw is the right decision.