Will Bob Arum lift the Pavlik-Abraham embargo now?

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    No. Kelly Pavlik is still scared of Arthur Abraham, who remains the much superior and more proven fighter.

    In a recent interview he said: "I am very frightened of Arthur Abraham. He is way too powerful for me. I intend to keep ducking him for the rest of my career."
     
  2. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    There are a bunch of Pavlik fans who seem to like to talk about skills at a Negotiating table rather than the skills Kelly Pavlik doesn't posses in the ring!!!:-(

    If AA was to sign to fight KP for free he would still knock him out under 5!!!!
     
  3. snakeface

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    more british humor...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjC3R6jOtUo[/ame]
     
  4. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    I read that quote too!!!
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    AA is still dripping bollock-sweat from the Dirrell fight; you can go and lap it up right now rather than hanging around with these kind of exhortations.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    “I know what people want and they can go [expletive] themselves,” Arum said with great exuberance. “I want to wait and build this to be the biggest featherweight fight of all time. It’s my job as a promoter to do that. When they fight, they’ll fight to be best featherweight in the world. I want to see those two clean out the division and I don’t want to see them rush to fight each other. There’s no way I want to rush and do this.” Bob Arum to The Ring
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    "I want to fight one fight in America; Oscar DeLaHoya." ( Arthur Abraham, June 21st 2008 )
     
  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You see Hermit, THIS is making **** up. What difference REALITY makes!

    "I want to thank America for this big chance. Thank you, America," Abraham said. "I wish for one chance to fight Oscar De La Hoya and one chance to fight Kelly Pavlik. I like America. The American people are very nice people and I come again"
     
  9. Hermit

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    This. :deal







    :lol:
     
  10. Hermit

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    I'll have to dig out the tape of that one. As I recall Pavlik was added as an afterthought to ODLH after being prodded. He is much more fluent in this Saurland press release.
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    He called out Oscar . . . . stuttered . . . . . stammered . . . . remembered what Sauerland instructed him to say . . . . and then with fear and trepidation mentioned Pavlik as an after thought. Abraham and Sauerland NEVER wanted any part of Kelly Pavlik. If they did, why the demand for a $2 million dollar guarantee? Why no offer of a fight in Germany? Sauerland and Abraham did an outstanding job of manipulating the media and public opinion. They never at any time entered into serious negotiations.
     
  12. BigBone

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    "Last spring we picked up negotiations with Top Rank," Sauerland said. "We have also been in constant touch with HBO and Showtime. However, in the last couple of months Top Rank seemed to have lost their interest in a unification."

    Dan Rafael: Arum said that to make the Abraham fight viable, he needs to be built up blah blah blah blah blah.

    When I was in New York last weekend to cover the Miguel Cotto-Michael Jennings welterweight title bout, I ran into Don Majeski, an old school boxing guy who works closely with Sauerland.

    Majeski said that Abraham and his team were ready, willing and able to come to the U.S. after the Simon bout. He said Abraham and Sauerland agreed with Arum that the Abraham needed to built up to the American public before facing Pavlik. Majeski said Abraham was willing to fight anyone the network involved in a potential Pavlik-Abraham fight wanted. I asked him if they would fight the winner of the Paul Williams-Winky Wright fight and Majeski couldn't say "yes" fast enough.

    "We are ready to fight Pavlik at any time and absolutely everywhere," Sauerland said. "Arthur would even come to his home town. If Pavlik and his people are really interested in coming to Germany, they should let us know officially. We would be more than happy to make an attractive offer."
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    And while Sauerland talked this **** in public he was already setting up the super six. That is a historical fact.
     
  14. Hermit

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    Kelly was the lineal champ with 3 titles, including ring, and AA wanted equal or better of the purse. Remember, Saurland didn't want to kick in the German TV money because it is a 'pool' and not a 'per fight' stipend. Arum never said the money demand wasn't fair. He just said the money wasn't there.

    Blame Arum for the fight not happening if you wish. The people that didn't realize what Saurland is like do now. Really no point to this thread at all really. Just another way to deflect what happened away from AA and try and rebuild his reputation. Are you Wilfred or Kalle? I never did figure that one out. :think
     
  15. BigBone

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    Wait, I'm gonna have to check my bank account...

    ... it's pretty empty, so I'm neither. Are you Mike Pavlik?

    "Pavlik promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank told me the other day that he's planning for Pavlik's next defense in late June or July in Cleveland, which is about an hour from Youngstown.

    Abraham is conspicuously absent from the list of potential opponents. The opponents Arum listed for me were, in no particular order, ... Vernon Forrest ... Sergio Mora, ... John Duddy ... and Felix Sturm. But there was scarcely a mention of Abraham from Arum until I pressed him on it."


    Does it look like Arum was trying hard to make the Abraham fight?