Will Brahmer be Calzaghe's downfall?

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  1. Grabonator

    Grabonator Active Member Full Member

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    Brähmer is not that good. If Calzageh beats Kessler, someone like Brähmer will be easy work. Lacy would knock him out, Kessler would knock him out, Calzaghe would knock him out, just to name a few.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Those 4 you mentioned as P4P would get wiped out by Calzaghe or Kessler, they are not currently operating on this level.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Taylor is P4P - this is irrefutable.
    Wright is P4P - he has just dropped a few spots.
    Hopkins is P4P - this is irrefutable.
    Pavlik - his name is in the mix on the basis that he beat Taylor and would then be a major player who could easily fight at 168.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Well, Taylor is going to get KTFO, so that'll drop him immediatley.

    Pavlik is simply just a solid fighter at 160, he's not a P4P level fighter and never will be.

    Wright would beat who at 168?

    Hopkins would beat what top fighters from 168-175? Not too many, he is really showing his age.

    I find it absurd to rank Hopkins a top P4P just for defeating Winky at 170 pounds, Winky is much less potent at 160 than he was at 154, much less 170, it was just a 'name' win.

    I can't pick Hopkins over the top 5 at LHW, thus I can't still legitimately rank him a top P4P. Nobody would give Calzaghe or Kessler any credit for wiping the floor with Hopkins in his current state, nobody would, he'd then just be 'old', which is what I am claiming now, he's 42 and showing it.

    Winky's done as a top class P4P fighter, he was a great 154.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :lol:

    Only shows your ignorance Blockhead.

    And it's 6 months, no 3, I hope you will properly **** off and not come back under an alias.
     
  6. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I'm a really big fan of Hopkins but I don't really want to see him fight Calzaghe at this point. He's simply too old to deal with him, especially for 12 rounds and Calzaghe would get a lot of credit for beating him, which might damage Hopkins' legacy a little bit. I agree with Amsterdam that both Calzaghe and Kessler would beat Taylor, Pavlik, and Wright pretty easily. The best and toughest match for Calzaghe to take would be fighting Dawson. If Calzaghe dominates Kessler and when Dawson destroys Diaconu the fight will be huge and the winner would deserve a TON of credit.
     
  7. Zerwas1

    Zerwas1 Active Member Full Member

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    Brähmer was 3 years in jail, which cost him a lot. In the amateurs he beat Ricky Hatton, Carl Froch and Felix Sturm (at least this is said)
    He would win against them again, if they fight 4 rounds. He seems not to be made for 12 rounds yet.
    His chin is a bit suspect lately.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Exactly. Hopkins is no longer a real elite P4P type fighter, it's heavily annoying that because of retiring and then marginally defeating a 170 pound Wright he is considered up there with his current H2H ability.

    Chad Dawson defeating Adamek wide and if he does the same to Diaconu will deserve a P4P spot. Wright means very little at this point, he does not have an impressive 160 record, much less even higher, the fact that this was for the 'lineal' title at 170 pounds pisses me off.

    If Hopkins wants serious LHW consideration, then fight a ****ing young, motivated fighter, not these recycled names.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    6 months Blockhead, take it or leave it.