Will Buds win age badly?

I do agree with your point on how the people did a full 180 on comments of Spence being in his prime when i recall the Pac/Spence fight being introduced people here & else were just saying how Pacquiao is only fighting Errol because he is over the hill now & Pac chose him at the right time & not Crawford & this included a few boxing personalities further implying that Pacquiao ducked Crawford when Team Crawford themselves let it slip that Pacquiao had signed his side of their contract to fight earlier,

Now more than three years later Crawford wins in great fashion & no one mentioned before or after the fact that Spence was shot, damaged by the accident, not the same, etc.

 

Everyone already knows your agenda.

 

Cotto agreed to it and he looked great on the scales. No hollowed out eye or sunken cheek bones. Spence was a corpse.

 

What's your agenda for refusing to acknowledge the corpse that Bud want?

 

I gotta disagree about Spence being drained brah.

 

Cotto weighed 146 in his last fight before Pacquiao & yes I would have preferred him to take the fight at the full welterweight limit,

I'm not sure Pacquiao would have actually cared either way as this was more of Roach taking liberties with Cotto obliging with a added precautionary for Manny going up in weight after facing Hatton at 140,

Cotton looked strong & wasn't drained who had his moments unlike the topic at hand.

 

Jeez, enjoy the moment for Christ's sake.

 

It's possible that the win doesn't age well. But not because of all the excuses now being thrown up for Spence's perceived poor performance.

Spence was lauded by some as a top tier P4P fighter at best he was low top 10 P4P but he might not have even been that good. We all know the division isn't particularly deep beyond the top 2, hence why Spence's best career win is over a damaged Kell Brook who was winning before an injury. I've always said Spence was overrated and maybe now others will start seeing agreeing with that appraisal of Spence.

It will come down to what Spence does after this defeat. I doubt he takes the rematch despite what he's said, his people will advise him against it, even if they don't care about him, financially it doesn't make sense as I doubt many will be willing to pay for what is perceived as a mismatch. If Spence can move up and have some success then it might not age badly but if he retires or if he moves up and is beaten again in the near future vs someone unheralded then yeah this win in hindsight might look less impressive.

 

Idk man I don't think a fighter who went through what Spence through can come back from that and unify 3 out of the 4 belts if he was overrated. Crawford is a great fighter and he proved that, just because you lose to a p4p great doesn't mean you're a overrated fighter.

 

once the hyperbole has died down, people will see that this fight was as much Spence being shockingly poor, for whatever reason, as it was Crawford being great. even in the first round which Spence won on activity, he had nothing on those punches.

a back and forth classic in the manner of the Porter fight would have aged better. instead, it was suspiciously easy.

 

Bro, Ugas and Spence was April 2022

 

Belts don't mean much these days, Taylor was undisputed but needed a robbery vs Catterall to cling onto the belts and Lopez moved up after losing to Kambosos and looking bad vs Martin and schooled Taylor. Fulton too, a unified champion but Inoue had the confidence to move up, with no warm up, dominated with the jab and KO'ed him as soon as he landed cleanly.

We've had more unified and undisputed champions of late than usual, the sanctioning bodies seem less inclined to block their titles unifying now. So Spence being a unified champion doesn't mean as much as it should. I rate fighters on who they beat and their actual skills not the belts they hold. Spence might of had the belts but he doesn't have the skills to match. He's good, very good, just not great and kind of limited to his style.

 

Belts don't mean much? Lets Strip Hopkins of his Accolades, Usyk, Crawford, Inoue and everybody else since belts mean nothing nowadays. Besides the fighters I mentioned didn't get thrown 40 feet from a Ferrari at a high speed either.

 

Not saying they mean nothing, but resume trumps all the belts you can ever garner. Belts are fine if you can't secure those signature wins, but one signature win trumps all the belts. Crawford was undisputed before, a 3 weight world champion, but fact is this single win over Spence trumps everything else he achieved. There could of been no belts on the table for Crawford/Spence and it still would have been the defining win of his career that put him on a level that all the belts he won before never did.

 

That's fine but Crawfords run to Undisputed @140 lbs was probably one of the easiest runs in the 4 belt era, not taking nothing away but it had to do with the talent pool.at 140 pounds as well which was Weak. You say Spence was overrated but who would have walk3d away from a potentially fatal crash like Spence did and still unify 3 out of the 4 belts? Corrales died in a motorcycle accident RIP, Paul Williams is a paraplegic after getting thrown from his motorcycle, Spence walked away and won and unified 3 belts at 147, that's not overrated.