Will Canelo run from GGG again?

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Will Clenelo run?

  1. Yes he will run the London Marathon in 36 minutes

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  2. He will stand and trade with Golovkin holding true to his promise of a knockout

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  3. Golovkin will kill him

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  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo fought the best fight of his career first time around, I can't see him doing better this time around especially with limited steroid use, GGG was overweight a few weeks before the fight, he was hesitant for most of the fight and barely went to the body, it's GGG who can make improvements in their 2nd fight, Not Canelo
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was no steroid use the first time around because both fighters were being randomly drug tested. And FYI, Clenbuterol isn't a steroid. I know it's fun to say steroid use for effect, but that's not factually accurate as it relates to Canelo.

    I don't think either Canelo or GGG fought the best fights of their career the first time around. Canelo made some tactical mistakes in the middle rounds. He did fight well but I wouldn't call it his best performance. Though considering how tough GGG is, GGG definitely forced Canelo to dig down deep and make it a very entertaining fight.

    GGG may have been overweight a few weeks before the first fight, if he had to shed weight it may have contributed to him not being at his best. I noticed as he walked to the ring he looked a little drained and fatigued. I do believe that GGG is much healthier now than he was last year and will be less overweight going into the rematch and it will be less of a struggle for him to make weight. That may be true for Canelo as well as he put on extra weight to take on Chavez just a few months before fighting GGG.

    I believe both fighters will be better versions of themselves this time around and the tactics will be refined having been in there with each other once before. Tactical changes from the first fight in the rematch are hard to predict though.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have a horrible feeling you might be right, apart from working the body more, Canelo took that away from GGG.

    GGG needs to do something different if we don't have a repeat of the first fight. He needs to find a way where he can press more like he usually does and not get caught coming in and a way of keeping Canelo on the ropes where he wants him.

    Golovkin will either need to come in and swarm him and hope all the extra shots he lands won't be undone by all the extra shots he has to take coming in, or more likely he needs to tighten up his defence so he isn't so easily countered. He also needs to take command of the centre of the ring at the start of each round so he can press Canelo into the ropes. I'd like to see him jab the body more too, hooks didn't work before because Canelo was able to block them or out position him to avoid getting hit to the body, if hooks won't work maybe a jab downstairs will help move Canelo where he wants him. He needs to feint more too, to do the same.
     
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  4. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG was the boss in there. No question about it. I dunno what they are trying to convince us that Canelo did this and that. He was just doing his best to keep GGG off him. But you can see who the boss was in the fight. I feel that Clenelo he needs a boost juice to beat GGG in this fight. It's the only way they can win IMO.

    Or acquire those judges again because GGG beat Canelo already. But those judges were ridiculous IMO.
     
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  5. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo didn't run, he fought decent against the ropes and GGG was gun shy. Next time out he needs to be in destruction mode or the same result will happen, possibly a loss.
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Youd be gun shy too if you were getting hit with concrete baseball bats

    On a level playing field Canelo wouldnt see the fifth with Golovkin
     
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  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Funny how Canelo went from Frankenstein’s feet to running shoes just because he improved his footwork and had GGG chasing him and not cutting the ring off in the first fight.

    This is not Rock Em Sock Em this is boxing which includes footwork AKA stick and move.

    I am far from being a fan boy but I respect both boxers inside the ring.

    For any boxer to ask another to just stand and trade is stupid. You want to trade then back me up and cut the ring off and force me to trade.

    Do I think Canelo and ODLH have jerked GGG around, yep, but at the end of the day I think both are great boxers

    BTW I would like to see GGG score a KD but Canelo has an iron chin
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    No, he will charge in head-first with his hands tied behind his back.
     
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  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I don’t think think crowed Canelo is smart. Canelo has one of the most beautiful, devastating inside uppercuts in the game next to Klit brothers and Special K. I still gasp when I see that inside uppercut from Brooks land on GGG and if Canelo lands a few of them we could see GGG stagger and hold on for life.

    I just want GGG to crush him but I know Canelo is no joke
     
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  11. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo showed lots of little things he learned from what mayweather did to him in their fight and used it in the first GGG fight. 100% shades of mayweather when GGG had him on the ropes.

    That defensive style is not very fan friendly, as a floyd can i can 100% understand why some people hate it, but the fact is its extremely effective and if a fighter doesn't fold under the pressure of the fan's the crowd and the opponent and get drawn into a fight. Its a very difficult style to beat, especially when the fighter also has a sharp offense and knows how to do just enough to point score and win rounds which is pretty much all floyd did at 147, love it or hate it that is the art of boxing, hit and don't get hit,that style also requires extreme discipline.

    I see canleo coming and fighting and even better version of that style again, GGG is also on the decline, This is not prime GGG, He's still very very good but hes not quite prime, canleo is a prime elite fighter and at this level that slight bit of decline however small can make all the difference.

    You can not fight GGG, i don't care who you are, he wants you to fight him, if you try and fight him you are getting knocked the F out, The only way to beat him is by boxing him smart, scoring points and picking your power shots EXTREMELY carefully, The only time you fight him is if you get him hurt, and so far nobody has managed to do that.
     
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  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I think Big Red might put Van on his HIT
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  13. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He didn’t run the first fight he did what’s called boxing Golovkin May want to try it sept 15. How he let flat footed ass Canelo out run him is sad and pathetic to be honest now that I really think about. Everyone and there mom knows Canelos has no gas tank which is why this is even more hilarious. I really would hate to see GGG in with an actually boxer lol
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo learned a lot about himself from fighting Mayweather, he gained valuable experience that he took with him into other fights. However, Canelo fought off the ropes vs GGG similarly to how he fought off the ropes vs Mayweather. One thing Mayweather didn't do vs Canelo was fight off the ropes effectively. The one time Floyd did stay on the ropes for a prolonged period of time (down the stretch in the 10th round) Canelo tagged him with his longest sustained combination of the fight. Earlier in the 10th round was when Canelo was on the ropes and Floyd couldn't land anything on him clean, and Floyd actually backed off and waited for Canelo to get off the ropes because Canelo staying on the ropes was frustrating Floyd.

    So as well as Floyd fought that night, one thing he didn't do well vs Canelo was fight off the ropes effectively. Floyd did well to stay off the ropes and the one time he really stayed there he got hit. Whereas Canelo proved to Floyd that he was the fighter who was able to fight off the ropes effectively. Canelo did the same thing to Floyd that he did to Triple G. When Canelo went to the ropes, and stayed there, he was able to pick off Floyd's punches like he picked off GGG's punches. If you dispute what I'm saying, just watch Round 10 of Canelo vs Mayweather and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Where Floyd had success against Canelo was not on the ropes. It was by standing toe to toe, using the jab and his longer reach, and using upper body movement to make Canelo miss and counter. So, while Canelo did learn a lot from fighting Floyd, he didn't learn how to fight off the ropes from Floyd. That was something he already had in his arsenal when he fought Floyd, and he used to it great effect in their 10th round. And it was telling that when Floyd tried to fight off the ropes himself late in the 10th round, it resulted in Canelo's best sustained offense in the fight.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    It will benefit Canelo to use less prancing around the ring without any intention of engaging.

    Imo, if Canelo uses the type of lateral movement Juan Marquez used vs Pacquiao which is to move the laterals while still keeping himself in position to strike, he will dominate Gennady Golovkin who from what I saw from the first fight was reluctant to get on the inside and trade with Canelo.

    Not that Canelo is all that great an infighter, but simply he's better than Golovkin there, who needs a little bit of space to unleach power, well on the inside he gets uppercutted to death by an overall more versatile Canelo who is great of combining body punching with those power uppercuts.