Will Cotto finish his career with a better resume then Mayweather?

Zab gets alot of credit for losing 3 of his last 4, including one no decision. :bart

 

Nova and I are debating not the original thread, but my contention that Cotto has not fought great competition thus far, only good competition. I feel that even now, PBF has not fought great competition, but good competition. And Cotto's resume is weaker than his. So he certainly has not fought great comp then.

If were are doing it based on their respective places in the boxing world, then PBF's grade is lowered because for a p4p #1 his comp has been average. But just straight up all is equal, his comp is good overall, not great. Very few fighters fight great competition....great should be reserved for guys like DLH who fought all kinds of champs.

 

Sorry man....I gotta laugh when guys here act like they are SO SURE of their post considering many fight picks going against them.

"The first step to knowlege in knowing you don't know everything...." :deal

If Margarito is ****, then he should have lost a long time ago. But I guess you can just call his comp **** to justify your opinion.

Until Margarito is PROVEN to be ****, sorry mate, then he isn't.

As for Clottey - Judah, does Clottey have to put him away to win? Don't think so. He's not fast, but he's far from slow. And he's technically sound with good whiskers. Doubtful Judah ever fights someone like that unless it's a fight he cannot say not to. Like vs. Cotto for example.

 

Most of the time, when I know about two competitors to a good degree, I call them right after analysing it.

I'm certain Judah beats a guy like Clottey. Clottey is by no way a hard hitter at WW, I've seen plenty of his fights. He stunned Margarito, but Margarito is an overrated, glorified journeyman.

 

Dude, you are my brother from another mother. Damn somebody that sees threw BS and Hype. And if you watch margarito fight you see.. like you said. the wins he got, he was getting outboxed every single time and went into fling a wild haymaker mode. And caught the other guy with what I call a WISH punch. The only guy I seen him actually outbox was that amateur Cintron. But you know you are going to raise holy hell on ESB calling there internet champ margarito a bum.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Basically, you're saying Margarito was losing most of his fights till a KO win for him? atsch

 

Calling him a BUM is extreme. He didn't hit a MAKE A WISH punch everytime. One time....ok, 2 times? Coincidence MAYBE. But if he has done that in every win he has gotten and simply gone into haymaker mode, that's called strategy and part of his crude but effective skill set.

Foreman went into Haymaker Mode often. At the very LEAST, Margarito is a solid fighter. At his best, he is a good champion, perhaps not a great one or p4p one. But he is not a bum.

 

Exactly mate.

Clottey, Cintron are his best wins and I have already outlined why they are 2nd tier fighters at BEST. I don't care if they raise hell, I go at it with them everytime the subject has been brought up, and I've been here for 2 and a half years!

Cintron gets starched by Margarito, but never showed anything proficient before that except power, then he improves and goes into a brutal war with a light hitting gate keeper in Estrada.

Then we have Clottey, who fails to stop a glass chin joke that the tomato can Carlos Bojorquez easily KO's, he barely gets by a 3rd tier in Guttierez and then owns Margarito until he busts his hands, which is where he gets his hype from and then he goes on to fail to stop the shot, moving up in weight, chinny Corrales.

Give me a ****ing break, this is more proven comp than Malignaggi, Corley and Judah?:nut

 

Margarito is a glorified journeyman, end of story. Wait until he finally steps up to an adequate fighter whom is not a hype job like Cintron or a decent 2nd tier like Clottey(whom was on his way to stopping him by the way) and see what happens.

He'll get raped in the ring and this is so easy to predict that it's not even anything to brag about.:yep

 

Yes, he was getting outboxed before landing a haymaker.IE Lewis/Gomez/Clottey(though his haymaker did not land)

 

Oh and I forgot the Santos fight. He was fighting for his life that fight. I mean..lol he threw boxing out of the window. And was just trying to land any haymaker he can throw. He is slow as all **** with his punches as well. I mean the way clottey was countering him with not one but two punches before slow ass could wind up for another wide looper...:yep :yep :yep

 

Exactly! There is nothing to "disprove" here, the guy is plain and simply not THAT GOOD. Christ, Margarito has been SOLD to the boxing public better than any average fighter I can think of.

 

He throws ****ing arm punches, the guys technique is so poor that it's just astonishing that nobody see's this guy for what he is.

He gets by on conditioning, workrate and a solid beard, but that's not going to work against a top class opponent, it ALMOST didn't get him past a B level opponent in Clottey and wouldn't have had Clottey not injured his hand.

 

SO you've seenTHREE margarito fights? So you say he was getting outboxed for ONE round against Gomez and two against Lewis? GEE...good thing Margarito go lucky.atsch

And he OUTBOXED Clottey BTW. That's what UD means.