Will Cotto finish his career with a better resume then Mayweather?

You cannot say "end of story" then say "wait and see". So far he has proven to be more than that. Much more than a journeyman.

Malignaggi? He hasn't beaten anyone as good as Cintron. He hasn't FOUGHT anyone besides Cotto as good as Cintron, Lewis, Clottey, etc. Corley....have you looked at the guys Corley has lost to recently? Or even before hand?

Hey, I respect what you have to say, but we have different views entirely on this. You go ONLY by what you see. I go by what I see and then cross reference it to what they have DONE.

 

I have already given what Cintron and Clottey ARE.

Also, the way the wins are counts, N'dou is a B level guy, as is Clottey and honestly they are on the same general level when you compare weight classes.

Throw Clottey in with Judah, Mosely, Collazo and Cotto and he now has as many losses at N'dou has, that I'd GARAUNTEE you.

Hell, I'll step it up and would bet anybody 500$ that Malignaggi would easily outbox Clottey for a wide UD. All of this **** is completely predictable if you see ENOUGH of each fighter and Clottey can't deal with a good, quick mover.

Clottey is similiar to Ngoudjo in ways as well, a guy who just barely got past Bailey and will be outboxed 12-0 by Malignaggi to top off my theory.

 

Toopretty -

The funny thing is that an injured Clottey resorted to pulling an amatuerish "stick and move" tactic late in the fight for one of the later rounds and I clearly remember Margarito having NO answer for it.

I'll up it to say Quintana easily outboxes this clown.

 

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WHo gives a ****. Margarito won, and until he loses to bums or loses consistenly, he's NOT. Until then, those who's opinion's count or is respected (not yours or many others here) see his as a top WW.

 

He cant even punch str8 I have quintana beating him as well. Cotto is a different beast. He throws fast hard shots that dont loop around the universe. I said that 1-2 years ago. Margarito would never fight a guy who can move in the ring. NEVER. Another thing a mover like Quintana would not have to worry about. The guy needs to have both feet planted to get any snap out of his punch. When he is moving and in the middle of the ring he is ****. I have never seen a boxer be that shitty in the middle of the ring and got damned near all of his knockouts with the other guy back against the ropes.

 

I am not going to go with IF's. You are telling me what you think they are. There are a ton of other experts would not agree. I will go with what happened. Clottey has 2 losses. One was a DQ, the other he go hurt and was to a champion. Until I have seen him try to adjust to a speed guy, I cannot, nor can you, say with any certainty that he doesn't have the timing to clock one.

 

I can respect that, but remember all this is sheer opinion. I think margarito is a bum. I always did. When I seen the santos fight I thought he was a bum with stamina. When I watched the gomez fight. I thought he was an overgrown welter bum fighting an old SHOT-shotgun. When I seen the clottey fight I just seen a guy throwing 80 punches after round 5 when clottey stopped countering him at will. Out of those 80 punches a round he landed about 10 not even clean and they were to the body. Clottey came out of that fight complaining about his finger and you see the camera on margarito and his face look like shredded pork. After 12 rounds with the Tornado and him punching every round and you are complaining about your finger and telling him to his face that Guitterrez fight was alot tougher and that you are ordinary. I mean clottey shitted on him even in a loss. lol:---(

 

But I can!

I really know this situation and fighter all too well KG. I don't have to act like a confused duck just to be fair to rankings, fans on forums and other factors, I know that the guy can't deal with anyone really competant in the WW class.

 

You can say the sky is Flourescent Green too....

Point is, I consider champions competent. I know thatr Clottey was beating Baldomir when he was DQ'd. I know that Baldomir beat Judah. I know that Cintron beat the same Estrada that gave Mosley trouble. I know Margarito has beaten both.

I am not calling Margarito a great super caliber all time fighter. I am not going to call a long time champion a bum either.

 

But I consider Clottey a good fighter. When healthy, I consider him a top 3 WW. Many here do....

No one can fault another for not taking someone else's opinion as the end of a debate. I am a proof kinda guy.

 

After beating floyd he sure as hell will.


(haven't read any of this thread guy so i'm just responding to the title)

 

Man I don't think so the divison is a beast right now...if he ran through it he would be the man without a doubt.

 

Floys had not fought superb competision either only a past his best DLH, judah and Castillo all the other wins are overated and are only papaers champions like cotto none of them are hall of fame material Floys have fought **** competition to. so don't hang so much to his nuts.