Will Floyd Joy Sinclair KO Maidana?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If Pac would have agreed to testing this fight would have already happened and you would not even be posting here today.:deal Roach admitted that it was their fault the fight didn't happen back in 2009 and they walked away because of testing. Why not call Pac out for this? He ruined the closest to prime fight and the closest the fight was ever to being made because of testing.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF is stylistic nightmare for Porter his style is reckless and can be exposed by movement straight punches and counter-punching. Porter would be one of the easiest fights he could take. The only difference between Porter and Maidana is that Porter is more athletic and has faster feet. He's tailormade for PBF.
     
  3. dangerousity

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    That's irrelevant. Pac agreed to stringest testing, just not the one Floyd wanted.

    Pac was the first man Floyd tried to subject to testing. Tell me, would you call out a 120lb man for being steroids? Probably not. Would you call out Ronnie Coleman, yes. There is a reason for that, you are impressed by the latter to the point it could only be achieved by cheating.

    Point is, regardless if Pac refused testing, was injecting steds into his ass, the fact remains that Floyd was scared. And you act like the result of their fight is foregone conclusion. His father and trainer, knows much more about Floyds ability than you do said "I fear for my sons life if he fights that man", I mean it doesn't get any more blatant than that in terms of how they see the difference in ability. Its obviously not a clear cut win.

    lol at insinuating that I'm only into boxing cos of Pac. I've been posting in this forum since 2005, in fact I have an older account dating back to 2003 way before Pac was a star. I was named after a boxer, I am a boxer and now coach.
     
  4. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at Floyds last opponents, Canelo, Guerrero, Maidana, Ortiz. None of them have fast feet, none of them fights in a dynamic way either, there is a reason for that, Floyd like those types of fighters cos they are easier to read thus easier to slip and roll.

    Porter the black pacquiao, in and out, fast feet, wreckless, throws in combinations, fast. Only diff is I don't think he's as skilled, not as fast and orthodox.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If you're a boxing coach then you should know goddamn well that if JMM gives Pac fits PBF who's better bigger and more athletic will tool him. Even more you should know that offense sells tickets but defense wins championships. There's a reason why boxers in the know say PBF will beat Pac and even JMM says the same. Is it just all coincidence? Or could it be they know what the hell they're talking about? Boxer's like PBF historically dominate elite offensive fighters like Pac. It's the reason why guys like Pea Whitaker and PBF are H2H terrors and shut down offenses making guys look amateurish.
     
  6. dangerousity

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    Yes cos JMM and Floyd are exactly alike. Like you know Bradley outboxed JMM, the same way Floyd outboxed JMM, so in conclusion Bradley > Pac right?

    Here's a tip for you, Floyd Mayweather Snr, one of the great trainers of today, trainer of Floyd, Father of Floyd said "I fear for my sons life if he fights that man". Freddie Roach, considered one of the greatest trainers of all time also believe Pac can beat Floyd. - So I guess I'm not alone in my line of thinking. I already gave you my full breakdown of this fight before, I'm not typing that chit out again.

    Castillo beat Floyd already, and if he didn't it was close. So much for your theory of defensive fighters completely shutting down offensive fighters.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Porter is limited and flawed and looks good against guys who don't have the ability to neutralize offense. Keep the fight on the outside and he's ****ed. Him coming in wide and reckless like that against PBF would lead to him getting knocked out. On top of that he has shorter arms than PBF so he'll be over extending even more. You can't honestly tell me that Porter is the answer. If you do it shows me that you're really reaching.
    Cotto has fast feet and still got beat. I hope Khan beats Collazo he's another guy with fast feet and you'll see how much that helps him.
     
  8. dangerousity

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    DO I think Porter will win? No. Do I think he has a much better chance than Maidana or even the likes of Garcia? Yes.

    Porter presents new problems for Floyd, a guy who can get in and out, swarm and pressure with power, speed and combinations. When you think about it, Floyd has never fought anyone like those abilities, hence why so many asked for Pac because they wanted to see how that unfolds. Malignagi typically has good defense and a good chin, Porter ran over him. Much more impressive than beating Broner in a much more difficult fight.

    Khan is similar in that sense, he fights using combinations and speed, less power and a much weaker chin though. For that purpose thats why I wanted to see Khan over Maidana, he brings something different to the table. Khan was also a 6/1 underdog as oppose to 15/1 like Maidana, proves that even the betting public believes in these ring dynamics.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    PBF shut JMM down Bradley got a close win big difference there. JMM is also willing to rematch both Pac and Bradley but wants nothing to do with a PBF rematch. Why is that?:yep
    If you have nothing to hide then you test period. Pac was probably dirty Roach didn't know what Ariza was giving Pac in those shakes, again his words not mine, so he advised Pac not to test.

    The last time I checked PBF was 2-0 against JLC and was injured going into that fight it was his first fight at 135 and he gave him a rematch and cleared any doubt. He didn't need 4 fights going life and death with JMM like Pac did to show who was the better man.
     
  10. dangerousity

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    JMM knows he has no chance with a rematch against Floyd, public wouldnt buy it and Floyd wouldn't take it cos it wont sell. I thought Bradley pitch a near shutout too, JMM won maybe 3 rounds, JMM won a couple of rounds off Floyd if I recall. Either way, proves that JMM isn't the answer to everything pertaining to beating Pac.

    Might aswell claim anyone who has superior boxing skills to Ken Norton beats Ali. JMM has Pac's number, thats about it.

    Pac-JMM has nothing to do with JMM-Castillo. You made a claim that defensive fighters dominate offesinve fighters, Castillo isnt even in Pac's league and many thought he won first time.
     
  11. Danebrogen

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    Feather fisted, brittle hands and no killer instinct. I say no.
     
  12. Alo2006

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    So u think Porter can beat Mayweather now because he went through Pauly? LOL Porter and Thurman is in talk for a fight this year. So let's see how he do against him.
     
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    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    QUOTE=Pimp C;16194979]If Pac would have agreed to testing this fight would have already happened and you would not even be posting here today.:deal Roach admitted that it was their fault the fight didn't happen back in 2009 and they walked away because of testing. Why not call Pac out for this? He ruined the closest to prime fight and the closest the fight was ever to being made because of testing.[/QUOTE]

    U are right Pimp, Roach admitted it was Pac's fault. Saying exactly, Pac drop the ball on that one. Here is the video. Listen at 2:40 - 2:52


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUs8yAS_qTs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
     
  14. dangerousity

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    Anyone can beat anyone on a given night, takes 1 punch. If maidana has a 15/1 chance of beating Floyd, Porter would be around 5/1, much closer. Porter also brings something different to the table, when I watch a fight I like to see how styles clash, how fighters deal with certain weaknesses and strengths. Even fighters I find boring I watch because I enjoy seeing how they dissect the puzzle.

    With Floyd-Maidana, the puzzle has been solved so many times before, we know what will happen, they bring nothing new to the table. At least the likes of Khan and Porter will bring something new, and PBF may look very impressive and shut them out again, and fans will be like "so thats how Floyd deals with fast feet, fast hands and fast combinations". In this instance fans are gonna be like "so thats how Floyd deals with a slow ass slugger....wait wut?"
     
  15. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    That is true about any given night, but we talking about Mayweather. Never seen a fighter as focus and dedicated to his craft as Mayweather.....well except Micheal Jordan. Put it like this, Mayweather's A game beats anybody today @ 140 - 154. Porter is too wet behind the ears for Mayweather.