Will Fury give AJ a shot? Pros and cons from Fury's perspective

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
    i have no idea who you are outside the last few posts, so i dont really find you anything except emotional. but thats par for the course with fanboys.
     
  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The wins over Wilder will age well when 1. he enters the HoF 2. all of the other American HW's continue to fail to do anything

    But it's not even about how they age, despite Wilder picking up a couple of decent wins since. Fury KO'd Wilder twice, broke him, ended his career at the highest level. Aside from Wlad, Wilder had the longest single HW reign since 1985. Fury-Wilder 2 was the 1st or 2nd biggest win since Fury dethroned Wlad.
     
  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I've seen some of your posts before. You're a fool with a Clint Eastwood fetish, nostalgic about the days when Ali was in his prime, and when you still had a fuctioning d*ck!
     
  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The real question is: will Joshua take the shot that is given to him?
     
  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Fury will have to ask whether living with a KO loss for the rest of his life in the UK, and becoming a highlight meme of AJ, is worth the money he will make.
    Because that is a real reality now.

    He almost certainly would have won when AJ and Hearn sabotaged it after the Wilder fight. He was on top then.
    Now they want it because it is in their favour slightly. Fury has lost a step and his game was based on speed and skill as a big man. Both are jaded but Fury has lost movement and punch resistance and AJ didn't lose his punch.
    This is exactly the type of conversation Hearn would be having with 'Team AJ'. It's the convo he'd have on the phone with meathead too.

    I would advise Fury to leave it alone now since he offered it before they were both over-the-hill and they wanted to rebuild for Dubious. They also wouldn't give him 50/50 on the comeback. It's on them it didn't happen when it should have. Now he is playing into their hands. He's better off going for the third title where he likely beats Kebabyal and has his best ever shot against an old Usyk.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    This match will come down to who has the better brand of walking frame.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Fury will be able to see AJ's right hand from a mile away and never let him set. It's easy work akin to the Wlad fight. Fury will toy with him and if AJ crumbles Fury might even be able to stop him although unlikely.

    Fight is a done deal but given their age an injury in camp is very possible
     
  8. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody gets in the HOF these days though so that's not going to be much of a plus given the terrible standards of induction.

    The quality of opposition in Wilders title reign is no better than many guys who aren't holding belts.
    Dubois beat Wardley, Hrgovic and Miller when he didn't hold a belt which are on par with Wilders best wins.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Dubois is a 2x titlist at 28, has a strong fight of the year contender and destroyed a likely hall of famer. He will be in himself.

    This is very far from "everyone". Post-Wlad, only Usyk, Fury, Joshua and Wilder are locks or likely in as it stands at this moment.

    Wilder will get in for a few reasons, including his long title reign, the power mythos, ATG Fury trilogy, and his significance to 21st century American boxing.
     
  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Probably yes. He needs to beat Fury to salvage his legacy. And he is all about the coin. It's too much reward for the cost and risk.
     
  11. BCS8

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    And that's the problem. Fury will assume that he will see AJ's right hand coming from a mile away, easy work all night. So he'll train in a pie factory next to the boozer. AJ probably shits himself every night in case Fury is under the bed and he'll train his ass off not to be embarrassed.

    Come fight night it's going to be the usual Fury story: a relatively straight forward fight gets turned into the Battle of the Somme because he looks like Dustin Nichols' big brother and the other guy is in top shape.
     
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  12. DubbleJab

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    They both beat Klitschko, and that is both their "Biggest win".

    Of course Fury did it first on Klitschko's turf and against a younger Klitschko...But then Joshua did it in more brutal fashion whilst being much more inexperienced than Fury was.

    The next biggest win on either of their records in Parker. Even though I don't rate him that highly, Joshua was undefeated and confident at that point and dealt with the undefeated Parker with relative ease. Parker doing the same to Wilder really exposes how relatively weak Fury's wins against Wilder are.

    The best version of Fury beats the best version of Joshua, on points. But Joshua has the longer and superior resume imo, despite also having more losses.

    I find it really weird that "Less Losses" is considered superior to "Better wins". I guess that's a result of the post Mayweather era. It's why Deontay Wilder was able to retain the manufactured hype for so many years.
     
  13. Redbeard7

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    It wasn't just that Fury beat the younger, chanp Wlad away from home, something it is doubtful AJ would have done. It is that Fury beat him with relative ease, barely taking a shot, never coming close to losing, whereas AJ was on the brink, and against a more aggressive 41 year old puncher: a Foreman, Ortiz or Zhang, it would have likely been game over.

    Parker isn't the next biggest win, not even close. The next is Wilder 2, then Wilder 3. AJ would have got poleaxed over a Wilder trilogy at least once, more likely more than once, especially away from home. AJ, Whyte, Joyce and Wardley victim Parker got a long finished Wilder at the right time, nothing more.

    Old Povetkin is the 5th best win. I would even place Parker below Whyte, who beat Parker and came to win against AJ, unlike Parker. Parker even got a gift against Chisora in their first fight, he never showed he was above that level.

    So Fury has three of four of the best wins, and two losses to Joshua's four. The AJ resume hype was always just a Matchroom narrative.
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

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    If you're going to use Whyte beating Parker as a reason for rating him above (lol) then Parker rates higher than Wilder as a better win, because Parker absolutely schooled him. Rating Whyte above a former world champion is insane.
     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Whyte and Parker were both prime and Whyte won. Wilder was finito when Parker beat him. Whyte also did better than Parker against Chisora, and like Povetkin gave AJ much more of a fight despite being stopped. I rate Whyte above Martin and Stiverne too.