Will Fury give AJ a shot? Pros and cons from Fury's perspective

I think at this moment in time Fury should want the fight and AJ shouldn't. AJ is now regarded as better because of the Wallin and Ngannou wins but he hasn't done anything since then and Fury has proven he's top 10 level much more recent. This isn't AJ's fault he's been through a lot but this moment in time would favor Fury. At least compared to prior windows.

 

Brilliant. Absolutely true.

 

I don't see it that way. So far as comparisons to Fury I feel AJ "won". Albeit at the very end.

I think for better and worse AJ and Fury's legacys are what they are. I see more potential for Fury to have an encore but that doesn't mean he's got a better legacy because this is kinda an irrelevant period of their shared careers. Fury would get mauled by Dubois too if he fought him. And the car accident ain't AJ's fault.

 

Both Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren say they have a signed contract for the fight, and both expect it in the UK in Nov.

Both also acknowledge that Turki is the $$ bags and this never would've happened but for him.

At some point apparently after the paperwork was allegedly signed, Turki decides to usher Dana White into the picture. Why? Presumably because Turki sees greater $$ in the US for this fight and going forward .... and it doesn't hurt that White is buddies with Trump (and Turki probably wouldn't mind being tighter with Trump, for various reasons).

And then White starts boasting that only he (and not Hearn and Warren) knows where any AJ-Fury fight will happen.

And then of course Fury shows up at the WH lawn for the UFC matches, almost signaling he's interested in signing with Zuffa. (And how must Warren have felt about that little cameo?) And then Fury's talking about "if" a fight with AJ happens. (Maybe he's using the thin cover that both he and AJ are first doing tune-up bouts with relative nobodies and, hey, you never know...)

Meanwhile, Turki, who'd been relatively silent in recent weeks, now says he wants a "peaceful" sit-down among Warren, Hearn and White.

Hearn and presumably Warren are of the attitude that, hey, if Turki wants to renegotiate the contract, possibly to move the fight to the US, they're all ears .... but nothing happens without their consent, their involvement (if not necessarily as lead promoter(s)) or at least their getting fat payoffs. And everyone acknowledges that, when push comes to shove, Turki is boss .... lest the sport go back to the relative paucity of activity before he came on the scene.

Of course, when interviewers ask Hearn whether he sees a threat to Matchroom from Zuffa, he dismissively sniffs at Zuffa's poor "product." Ironically though, Matchroom's fights mostly appear on DAZN, while Zuffa's stream on Paramount+ and they have a Netflix relationship too.

And the DAZN app, especially in comparison to those two US-based streamers, is undeniably a seriously poor product.

 

I think it could be argued as the biggest win for either.
Considering Fury beat a late in career Wladimir and Joshua fought a similar version winning in a more destructive fashion as well picking up all the titles won that night.

really don't see one above the other.
Of course Joshua would likely have more losses... he has fought in more world title fights (13), to Fury's (8)
Joshua is 9 - 4 - 0, Fury is 5 - 2 -1.
For world title wins percentage wise, it is very similar
In world title wins Joshua is around 69%
In world title wins Fury is around 62.5%

Joshua has a higher percentage of world title wins to Fury
Joshua has won 2 unification bouts to Fury being 0 in unification bouts

I feel Fury has the best win in beating Wladimir, but how was any other HW supposed to get as big a win when Fury didn't defend those belts?
Maybe Andy Ruiz has the best win in the division even if not the best resume?
I don't think overall that Fury has a better resume though
I feel that is very debatable, which is why fans get divided on here

See my previous answer to this below in red...

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You didn't really answer that
Not every fighter is going to be as popular.
Joshua was known more as people watched him in the Olympics and got to follow the whole transgression from amateur.
It was similar for Audley and Khan only that in fairness to Joshua, he stepped up much sooner, so probably would have been given more interest
I don't think Fury had any real less support than Price and Chisora who turned pro at a similar time. Do you?
I am asking that, but I think you are possibly too young to really recall

you don't know how I see it, but I would disagree with calling a fighter a stain when they have been a 2 time champ, won so many titles in separate fights and taken so many top 10 rated HWs, win or lose

I'm not convinced it will this year
I thought I answered that previously below in red

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Have I misunderstood you?

 

I understand that but it was said to be Usyk next and he didn't do that.
That was the point I was making and even showed you the video with where to find it
I assumed you listened?

 

With Fury and Joshua -
I was surprised how Joshua has a higher percentage win record in world title fights than Fury
Joshua is 9 - 4 - 0, Fury is 5 - 2 -1.
For world title wins, percentage wise, it is very similar
In world title wins Joshua is around 69%
In world title wins Fury is around 62.5%