Will Hatton ever regain elite status?

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  1. knotty150

    knotty150 Active Member Full Member

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    Hi

    I think it's all well and true giving a fighter a gameplan for a fight, but trying to 100% renovate his whole style after only 1 fight with Mayweather Sr was almost ludacris. I think for Hatton to have stood any chance against Pac, he should have had at least 3-5 against lesser opposition (to gel with Mayweather Sr, and possibly, renovate his style completely). Instead, he stuck him in the ring against Malignaggi (who I think was inevitably going to lose to Hatton), then onto Pac straight away.

    Now I'm not saying Mayweather Sr is entirely to blame for Hatton's loss, not at all, but thinking he could turn Ricky into an entirely different fighter after just 1 fight, and basing his gameplan on that notion, I feel was perhaps slightly uneducated and ill concieved.
     
  2. Maelstrom

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    As long as he stays away from Bradley and Alexander.
     
  3. homebrand

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    lol. Jeez, the whole "he only lost to Mayweather and Pac - no shame in that" argument is getting boring. He lost to them because he wasn't good enough.

    And it wasn't just those two anyhow, he struggled like a dog against Urango, who isn't or never has been anywhere near elite, and in most able sighted people's eyes he lost to Collazo as well.

    He lost to Mayweather, so the line was "ah, but he's never lost at 140". then he lost to Pac, and it became "ah, but he only lost to Mayweather and Pac - no shame in that". Yawnnnnn.

    When he loses his next fight it'll be "ah, but he only ever lost to Mayweather, Pac and .......!"
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hatton should never have split from Graham. Team Hatton knew what kind of a trainer Mayweather Senior was before they hired him. Besides, Mayweather Senior has never instructed his fighters to charger forward with no defence which is pretty much what Hatton did against Pac.
     
  5. Maelstrom

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    :yep
     
  6. knotty150

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    Yea I agree, he should never have split from Graham. 44 wins should have told them that.

    And also, why are people now slating him for losing? There is no shame in losing to Mayweather and Pac, his loss to those 2 serves as nothing more than a monumental credit to both of theirs immense skill, and their rightful title as no.1 p4p.
     
  7. Andy1966

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    To put it in perspective (and I'm no Hatton fan) his only loses are to the top 2 pound for pound fighters in the world. He gave Floyd more trouble than most fighters hes been in with, the Pac fight was just terrible, it took about 30 sec's of the fight for anyone and everyone to see that leaping in with wide hooks was going to lead to much sadness for Hatton.
    I really believe if Hatton had punched straight, which he can, he could have given Pac a good fight, still see him losing, just not in such a dramatic fashion.
    Hatton before these 2 fights had a few wins (close) with some respectable American opponents. He could get another big fight easily with a tune up fight before.
    I really hope he does not, I see it as his time to retire for good.
     
  8. Scar

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    I don't think so, his last two major attempts were against #1 P4P fighters, can't really blame him for falling in those two fights since he at least tried and made those fights possible. He came in 110% for both fights and we saw the results, he's better off out and I sure as hell hope he DOESN'T give Khan a free shot.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he was. The man has been #1 at 140 for 4 years, two division world champion and proved he can at least compete at the highest level. Pacquiao fight it was a case of him being overpowered and not being able to take those punches. It wasn't a case of being "schooled" or "outclassed" for people to downgrade his status.
     
  10. JuanMa

    JuanMa business as usual Full Member

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    Possibly it will be a long road for him but it's feasible first thing is first keep your damn hands up.
     
  11. Kush

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  13. gungfu

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    That's the weird thing about Hatton. One would think that the most basic skill a boxer learns is to put your gloves up when someone is trying to hit u in the face.

    Is Hatton that mentally deficient that he doesn't even consider this is in a fight?

    If he hasn't learnt to do that how is he going to change when fighting Khaaaan!?


    Kinda off-topic, but ever see Hatton walking back to his dressing room after the Pac fight? WTF is up with his arms? It's like they can't be straightened, and he has to walk about with his arms at an acute angle. You see it when he got KTFO as well - crooked arms.

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  14. scurlaruntings

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    Its because of al the stupid weights he does. Some guys pose like that on purpose. Bigger guys stand like that because of their lats. Hatton isnt big. he just likes the idea of being some wedgy.
     
  15. Davies

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    Hatton was the best 140 pound champ for nearly four years, he made Kostya Tszyu quit on his stool after out hustling him (nobody gave Hatton a chance remember)

    In his 1st defence he unified against maussa won via KO, Moved up a weight to fight a very tricky southpaw in collazo won that on a close decision, went back down to 140 and won his tile back over an undefeated IBF champ Urango, did to castillio what no man has ever done and put him on the deck in which he didnt get up from.

    Stopped malignaggi (stripped but still IBF champ) who many thought would do Hatton and make him look stupid beacuse hes too fast even Cotto couldnt stop him, Only lost to the pound for pound best in PBF and PACMAN.

    Prior to all this he beat all domestic and european competition in his way bar Junio Witter.

    6 World titles in 2 weight divisions, fought the best, only lost to ATG P4P champs if that doesnt spell elite then i dont know what does :huh