Will Haye ever fight a Klitschko?

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  1. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    If Klitschko (either one) actually makes a reasonable contract up then yes, Haye wants the fight and he now has a belt to throw down on the negotiating table, we'll see what happens now.
     
  2. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    I think that Haye is scared to fight Klits, but if the money is correct he will fight them. I think that in June he dint want to risk so much for so less money. Now he is on much better position to negotiate.
     
  3. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Why do you think this?
     
  4. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    He didnt want to risk losing for NO money..he has a wife and child to support!

    His only gauranteur for being paid was setanta who went bust.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...e-leaves-millions-of-sports-fans-in-dark.html
     
  5. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Because he probably knows that he would be an underdog in these fights. I dont say he doesnt have chances, because he is a good boxer and in the ring everythin may happen. If he hadnt been scared, he would have fought Wlad in June or Vitali.

    Maybe I used incorrect word 'scared', but I meant that he knows that such fight was very risky and the risk wasnt worth the money.
     
  6. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Haye is rightly wary of Vitali but he has nothing to fear from Vlad.

    Haye will knock out Ruiz and then he will take on Vlad I think that fight will be a great show and at the moment it is a 50/50 fight as both hit hard and both arn`t the best when it comes to taking shots.
     
  7. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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  8. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Yeah, I agre that he probably realises he's a big underdog but I doubt he's scared of the fight. He doesn't come across that way to me.

    I can understand why the fight never happened the first time round, if he actually wasn't injured, he wanted that 3-4 week postponment he offered because the situation with Setanta was too dodgy .. he flat out walked away from the Vitali deal so I can only assume that the conditions were beyond ridiculous and Vitali was trying to be a bit wide (cheeky) due to all that had happened previously.

    I think they offered him a contract they knew he would never sign up to in order to make him look like a chump.

    Like I say, it will be interesting to see what happens next.

    When was the last time we could say that about the HW scene. :)
     
  9. calumbo

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    Yes its true.

    Most of the klit lovers/hate bashers on here who have blasted him a ducker etc for not fighting wlad fail to realise that he would be receiving no money.
    They were his only guarantee of money for the fight.it was a subscription(ppv) channel in the uk.
     
  10. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    OK. So, as I said, now he is on much better position to negotiate so these fights are much more possible to happen. :good
     
  11. Nigel

    Nigel New Member Full Member

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    Isn't that what i said?!... I said Vitali is heavy favourite if they were to fight now and Haye should wait a few years when Vitali is 40+ and in decline. With Wlad he has a chance but Wlad is still favourite... although i disagree that Wlad is 'heavy' favourite and it certainly will be a closer fight that some would think. I don't quite understand where the "wake up" comment is aimed at... perhaps at me for being a Haye fan? haha.

    I think it's potentially a very exciting and intriguing fight. It could go and pan out in so many ways. I think Wlad will try and dominate with the jab and fight how he has for the past few years as it's a winning formula for him. The fight will depend on how Haye approaches the fight. If he fights the same way he did with Valuev then yes i agree, chances are he will lose. If he takes some risks and try to slip the jab then he can possibly land some bombs and test Wlad's chin. Wlad in turn, can also look to go for an early KO and that could be that. Wlad might get riled and change his fight plan and then it becomes a slugfest? Then anything can happen!! I don't know, my point is... it can go in so many ways which makes this fight so excting.

    Back to my original point in response to the opening post, i think Haye will certainly make a few defences against Ruiz and perhaps a few others before looking to fight one of the Klitschkos. Obviously that's dependent on him successfully defending his title first!
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, I agree now.
     
  13. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Farmboxer

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    Vlad won the "real" WBA title from the "REAL" WBA champion Chagaev. Holyfield did more against Valouev than Haye and so did Ruiz. Haye will stay away from good fighters, he will never fight Vitali or Vlad. All Haye did was run, did not throw punches because he appeared to know he had the judges in his pocket. Even Jim Watt said that Haye could not win fight by running and now throwing punches. Notice that Haye knew he did not have to do anything but stay on his feet. Valouev appeared to know the fight was fixed. Haye is a disgrace, but boxing is all about the money. No wonder Haye backed out of his fights with Vitali and Vlad.
     
  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    This is true.

    Don't forget that this is the terms that Haye dictated. He was so sure he could pull massive figures locally that he figured he would get rich by doing this. Because, you know, he is a bigshot promoter, you know, and can sell out arenas locally, you know.

    IIRC the Klit team described the demand as bewildering and demonstrated what novices Haye and his team were.

    Similar to the complaints about rematch clauses against both brothers. Rematch clauses are pretty common. Haye himself made it insultingly clear that he wanted to fight both brothers.

    So terrible, this contract that offered him everything that he said he wanted. Now it looks like Saurland may have options.... but Haye wouldn't sign any sort of slave contract!
    Now he has to fight Ruiz. But no-one tells him who to fight! That's slavery! And he wants to fight the Klits - that's what he said, anyway. But when he gets a contract to do just that? Slavery!

    If you haven't worked it out by now chances are you never will.